a meme with two halves.
on top is a screenshot of the terminal with the following text:

Generated ~/.config/emacs/.local/env
Installing plugins
> Installing straight...
> Installing packages...
> Updating recipe repos...
> Cloning Llink-hint.el...emacsmirror-mirror. ..
> Building link-hint...
> Building link-hint > Cloning avy...
- Checked out avy: be612110cb116a38b8603df36794
> Building link-hint > Building avy...
> Building link-hint...
> Cloning drag-stuff.el...
> Building drag-stuff...
> Cloning company-shell...

the lines installing straight and building drag-stuff are highlighted in red.
on the bottom is Confused Nick Young face

  • flamingos-cant@ukfli.ukEnglish
    57·
    9 months ago

    > Look up package
    > hasn’t been updated in 7 years
    > install it and it still works

    God, I love emacs

    • dan@upvote.au
      602·
      9 months ago

      I think some people don’t understand that software can be complete/finished and not need any more updates unless a bug is reported. Software doesn’t have an expiry date.

      • marcos@lemmy.world
        33·
        9 months ago

        That’s not true if people keep making breaking changes to your platform. Some people only ever experienced those platforms, so they can’t understand it.

        • dan@upvote.au
          8·
          9 months ago

          Oh yeah, I didn’t consider the fact that emacs might have a lot of breaking changes (I don’t use it). Thanks.

          • mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
            3·
            9 months ago

            This is about emacs not having breaking changes and most other platforms(like android) requiring constant updates and maintainance due to their changes in it.

            • dan@upvote.au
              1·
              9 months ago

              I don’t use emacs so I didn’t know that, but on Android I have apps that haven’t been updated in a long time (games I purchased as part of Humble Indie Bundles that just came as APK files) that still work fine.

              • mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
                2·
                9 months ago

                Android does a pretty decent job in making the old apps work but for devs its hard to keep supporting new versions of android. Devs have to use the new apis to be able to release in play store. They have to constantly raise their target SDK version for play store to accept any kind of updates, but to raise sdk version, they have to update the implementation, etc. Then when a new android version release, it have the next sdk version and some apis might be removed and/or deprecated. The newer android can run the apps built for older versions usually fine except if some new android limitation was introduced. But the thing is it needs to be changed when updating target sdk version(play store enforces that you have to make the taget sdk corresponding to quiet recent android version).

      • flamingos-cant@ukfli.ukEnglish
        28·
        9 months ago

        Sure, but software that targets a moving platform like Emacs can often break. I’m commenting on how stable Emacs is, even past major releases (25->29 in this case).

        • dan@upvote.au
          2·
          9 months ago

          but if the bugs are low-priority and have easy workarounds, it’s not so bad.

    • Possibly linux@lemmy.zipEnglish
      1·
      9 months ago

      I think its being maintained by a volunteer who isn’t part of the fsf. I vaguely remember someone winning an award for there work on the project.

  • TheInsane42@lemmy.worldEnglish
    131·
    9 months ago

    Come to the vi side, no straights or drags. (And just as terrible to use for every starter as emacs is ;) )

    Sorry, had to have the 1st vi post. ;D

    • Shareni@programming.dev
      7·
      9 months ago

      And just as terrible to use for every starter as emacs is ;)

      I started learning Emacs at the same time I was learning to code. Once I found Doom it was pretty straightforward. Before that…it wasn’t fun.

      I’m currently trying out lazyvim, and I think the Emacs approach is a lot more accessible to beginners because:

      • it does everything on its own instead of relying on you knowing cli tools

      • :help is just sad when compared to C-h, and generally the in-editor docs and guides are a lot worse

      • Doom is a lot more opinionated than lazyvim, but it also requires a lot less manual setup

    • lemmesay@discuss.tchncs.deOPEnglish
      5·
      9 months ago

      it’s doom emacs(with vim bindings). I am currently using vim but wanted to learn emacs too as org mode seems interesting