cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/12546096
Gaza’s government media office accused the Israeli army of “committing a horrific massacre”. More than 70 people were killed and about 250 others wounded, it said in a statement on Thursday.
The citizens had congregated at al-Rashid Street, where aid trucks carrying flour were believed to be on the way. Al Jazeera verified footage showing the bodies of dozens of killed and wounded Palestinians being carried onto trucks as no ambulances could reach the area.
“I have been waiting since yesterday. At about 4.30 this morning, trucks started to come through. Once we approached the aid trucks, the Israeli tanks and warplanes started firing at us, as if it was a trap.
Hey Bibi, get fucked by an army of blue whales. You genocidal asshole.
In no way I’d support Hamas, but that my government still supports Israel is a fucking outrage.
like this?
Like this.
Zionists are the new Nazis.
Treat them accordingly.
Hey! There was Hamas in that food!!!
Damnit you got your Hamas in my hummus
Hummus is ISIS
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No they’re not. No matter how horrific the actions of their government, never conflate that government with its people. Israelis have been killed horribly by Hamas, that doesn’t mean Palestinians are evil. Neither population deserves this violence.
Edit: yes, the Israeli children herded into a basement and then killed with a grenade deserved it, because Israelis are evil. Here’s a fun game: replace “Israeli” with “Palestinian” in that sentence. I can’t believe you guys aren’t familiar with that one already.
Israel is a very wealthy nation. Most of the people living there have the means to leave, unlike those literally trapped in Gaza.
Israelis choose to live in one of the most contested and controversial places on Earth. Why? Because they think they’re entitled to it. That’s what Zionism is all about.
I have no sympathy for Israelis unless they are doing everything in their power to leave.
so i’m guessing you’re referring just to israeli jews? not israeli druze, bedouin or arabs?
and which jews are you referring to that “choose to live there”? as a lot of israeli jews have been there for some generations by this point. it’s their home (let alone the families who remained since the kingdom of judah).and that’s some nice propaganda for israel, but unfortunately israel’s poverty rate is among the highest in the developed world. while also being one of the highest cost of living countries.
bibi’s economic policies and transfer of funds to ultra-orthodox organizations and private education institutions has only made things worse for most over the years.What would a few people leaving do? Where would they go, and to what benefit? You realise that to leave, another country would have to grant them a visa, and visas can be denied? What about the ones that don’t have the means to leave? The US is one of the wealthiest countries on earth, do you think everyone here can just up and fuck off to another country as well?
It sounds like you haven’t thought this through.
The United States. Israel is an albatross around its neck. The best solution for all parties involved would be for Israelis to relocate to the US, which has plenty of room to accept them.
The US is one of the wealthiest countries on earth, do you think everyone here can just up and fuck off to another country as well?
No. Why would you think that?
It sounds like you haven’t thought this through.
It sounds like you’re arguing with yourself.
I would think that because you said “Israel is a wealthy country” and then proceeded to link that statement to the idea that everyone in Israel should up and leave and if they’re not doing everything they can to leave then they don’t deserve your sympathy for the Hamas attacks.
If you think that the US will just take in ten million refugees sight unseen, I want whatever you’re smoking. You clearly have no idea of the logistics required to put even half of your insane bullshit “solution” into action. I recommend thinking about it more, maybe reading a little.
Sorry, you seem to be the kind of person who thinks only “easy” suggestions are viable ones.
I can’t take people like you seriously because you need more experience with the real world.
Spoken like a child. What’s sad is, we’re on the same side, but you’re happy to alienate anyone for daring to remind you that Israelis are as much victims of their government as Palestinians are, and that your “solutions” aren’t “hard”, they’re entirely nonviable.
Lucky for you, you don’t have to take me seriously at all, I’m going to block you and never interact with you again because I find you unpleasant.
The ones that went and blocked the trucks are pretty evil. Not all Israelis though 👹
You should look up the experiments done by Stanley Milgram. He showed that “Just following orders” is a reasonable defense, by showing that “normal” people will also “just follow orders” more often than not, even absent the threat of any direct or indirect detriment to themselves.
They became the monster we saved them from.
r/worldnews just seems to be a constant Hasbara conversation these days.
All voices are pro Israel. which is completely different to anything I have seen in my real life.
Good work Hasbara.
Beginning of the Iraq war was worse. You couldn’t dissent. At least with this one there is small voice of dissent.
It’s actual unironical bots. Reddit’s main subs are is straight up HasbaraGPT.
r/Worldnewsvideo or r/Palestine are the real stuff.
#JustIsraeliThings
Man it all just makes me so fucking depressed, why are humans such colossal pieces of shit
Ahh, just 5 kills short of that 3rd nuke.
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The flour massacare: According to Bisan who is trapped in Gaza this was (one of the) the first deliveries of Flour to the north of Gaza. since a long while. The IDF used this to massacare Palestinians with.
Death count is not 104 according to Aljazeera with 1000 injured. The IDF shot at 1000 people looking for food. Israel are Nazi’s.
Aerial footage from the IDF (not NSFW) twitter link
Ground footage (dark, tracer rounds can be seen but not graphic): Twitter link
Biden is the person that is making this possible by supplying israel with weapons they use to commit these massacres. Boycott your votes for Biden until he stops this Genocide.
Looking at your post history, it seems clear you’re trying to make sure trump wins. This is all you do all day long, blame Democrats during election season, for something they aren’t in control of. Knowing that trump winning would be worse on this issue mysteriously having zero effect on your message.
This guy isn’t a trump supporter and the fact that you’d blatantly lie about it says a lot about how twisted you are. Straight up trump style ad hominem gaslighting tactic.
Instead of engaging critics, you Biden cultists just gang up on and bully anyone who criticizes your shitty candidates.
The more I see comments like yours, the more I think about sitting this one out and watching you evil motherfuckers cry in November. It’s so pathetic how you’d rather attack people than own Biden’s foreign policy decisions. And you act like you’re sooo much better than the GOP while you pull the same exact shitty tactics they use.
You’re actually threatening to watch trump elected with glee so the idea that you care about Palestinians is laughably hollow.
Lmao says some fascist who cares about Palestinians soooo much you won’t even criticize Biden. You’re a fucking coward.
You “care” so much you’ll do everything you can to elect Trump. You’re a fraud and everyone knows it, even you
Boycott your votes for Biden until he stops this Genocide.
Boycotting votes for Biden won’t do anything because the US government, regardless of what party is in power, is unanimously pro-Israel. Boycotting voting for Biden accomplishes nothing in the face of united MAGA voters.
I’m stopping Genocide in the most effective way possible, by tanking public support for it.
It’s not November yet I’m not sure why you are already defending Joe Biden while he is still perfectly able to stop committing Genocide which would stop him from losing votes to people who oppose Genocide.
Or are you hoping he keeps this Genocide going until November?
would stop him from losing votes to people who oppose Genocide.
Who is this magical candidate who promises to run roughshod over 80+ years of US foreign policy and change the minds of almost every single Congresscritter (and their financial backers)?
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Absolutely fucking nobody, you’re just a GOP shill
You’re the only here helping Trump by telling Biden not to stop Genocide.
Ah yes, a complete non-answer. Gotcha, you’re dismissed.
Also, good job misrepresenting everything I said. When did I tell him not to stop? I’m just telling your idealist college kid brain that he’s simply not going to, whether we like it or not. Nobody is, and nobody realistically can except Bibi. Maybe redirect your efforts where they might actually count, toward Israeli citizens themselves, rather than lashing out where it absolutely will not matter. Assuming you actually give a fuck about Palestinians and are not simply a GOP shill, of course.
You’re the only one misrepresenting anything pretending that Biden can win while enabling Genocide.
That is not going to happen. Pretending it will only delays Biden from doing anything and helps Trump.
Lol, okay. Live in your fantasy world. He can win if people like you stop encouraging apathy. But no US president will ever do what you want. You might get one that further enables Israel, though.
It’s been going on before any of us were born, and none of us is directly connected to these events historically, and even those that were have conflicting stories.
Maybe this is all just geopolitical theatre, and we’re all amplifying the propaganda. Puppets who will never meet those who pull the strings.
Maybe the people you vote for are some of the main cast. 🤔
We can stop the Genocide with a choice for Biden to stop Genocide or lose the election. If he still chooses Genocide then we need to put on an entirely different tinfoil hat.
Trump won’t bend and neither will his base but the Democrats cannot ignore the progressive who will not be complicit in Genocide.
Yeah you’re certainly stopping genocide alright. Trump has vowed to stop this war, right? Because he totally fucking could anyhow!
Also no one is defending Biden you liar.
What Joe Biden is doing right now is something I would have only expected from Trump. And the defense of it is something I would have only expected from Republicans.
You’re not voting for Joe Biden either while he’s still supporting Genocide right?
I’m voting strictly for Joe Biden without question because I’m not a fraud who wants Trump as a dictator in office.
This in no way condones what ISRAEL is doing because I’m not willing to lie my ass off and act like Trump or anyone else would be any better at all.
Good luck with your lie campaign though.
If the Genocide stops more power to you. Fully agree.
If the Genocide will still be ongoing then you are in fact condoning israel. Empty words mean nothing.
You are handing the reigns to trump who we all know will be way worse.
Thereby making it obvious that you know you’re a liar and don’t give a fuck about any Palestinian. You’re specifically supporting the opposite of what you’re obsessively claiming to want.
Your Lemmy profile is truly fucked. Guessing it’s one of several accounts
Because all of this noise that you’re adding to isn’t on a cooldown timer. People will carry their beliefs with them to November.
Biden is the person that is making this possible by supplying israel with weapons they use to commit these massacres. Boycott your votes for Biden until he stops this Genocide.
Yup, it’s only Biden, not the overarching position of all US foreign policy and basically every elected official past, present, and almost certainly future, since World War II. And definitely not the fault of Bibi himself.
Plus Biden is God, if he says the word, it stops. Bibi definitely won’t seek other avenues.
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You do realize how ridiculous it sounds that you are going to basically let the guy win who:
- actually instituted a Muslim travel ban last time he was in office
- has literally described himself as “the most pro-Israel president ever”
you are going to basically let the guy win
It’s not “letting” if that’s specifically their goal
Fair point. It’s hard to tell in this day and age who is astroturfing and who is simply very seriously misguided.
Agree, but if you look at this dude’s post history they are rabidly obsessed with blaming this on Biden.
Similar events have happened in the past with israel and American president’s have shut them down with one phone call.
In addition to Biden not stopping the Genocide, Biden bypassed Congress to give israel weapons to commit more Genocide.
If Trump wins it will be the fault of the people that supported Biden doing Genocide so much that Biden did not think he needed to stop doing Genocide.
Nope. It will be the fault of people who didn’t vote for the other candidate with full knowledge of how first-past-the-post elections work. You lot want to throw the baby out with the bathwater on this one, and it is knuckle-draggingly stupid. Maybe if Trump had come out and said he would unequivocally cockblock Israel from further action in Gaza, it would be one thing, but there is exactly zero evidence of this, and the rest of the garbage that comes with a Trump presidency is very much a known quantity. Including his stated intentions to end the American experiment as we know it.
Us lot are going to make sure that Biden loses if he continues this Genocide.
If you want to lose the election by telling Biden he can continue to support Genocide that’s your fault.
You can see the polling numbers in Michigan backing up my claim. The faster Biden stops the Genocide the faster he can actual start an election campaign.
Boycott your votes for Biden until he stops this Genocide.
Because Trump will be so much better for the Palestinians.
