Practices recorded by UNRWA include the use of a nail gun on prisoners’ knees, sexual abuse against both men and women and the insertion of what appears to be an electrified metal stick into prisoners’ rectums.

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      I’d like to see one defend this

      Well, you see… according ro IDF, the hamas are hiding within these peoples anuses. So they need to electrify their rectums, to get these guys out there. I mean, it’s obvious, duuugh!

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      Nobody with any credibility will defend these actions if they are true.

      Personally, I do not find an “unpublished report” of nameless and dateless “accounts” from UNRWA, an agency that is Gaza’s largest employer–a significant number of whose employees and managers are supporters and accomplices to Hamas’s continued power in Gaza as a matter of basic math–to be very credible. Especially when it comes to such outrageous, unbelievable, claims.

      And for me it’s doubly true when the coverage of the report (of the accounts) is from Qatari state media, funded by mega donors to Islamist nationalist movements. Notice how it cites to itself as verification of the report. Absolutely zero of the accounts have been independently verified, and if someone chimes in below with a link to other coverage, they will likely at least have the decency to say conspicuously that the accounts are unverified.

      Fuck me for not believing it, right Hamas fans? It’s not like Hamas and it’s supporters would ever lie or exaggerate to perpetuate its own overt violations of international law as a part of a formal tactic known as lawfare! 🤡

      What exactly does one call the coverage of a report of accounts, fourth hand information? Fifth?

      Needless to say, if any of the accounts are found to be true, or to have been witnessed by other Israeli soldiers who failed to intervene, I have some hope that the perpetrators will be tried and convicted of their crimes. As opposed to in Gaza, where confessed perpetrators of overt war crimes get prizes.

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        There always has to be one IDF troll.

        https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/02/israelopt-un-experts-appalled-reported-human-rights-violations-against

        GENEVA (19 February 2024) – UN experts today expressed alarm over credible allegations of egregious human rights violations to which Palestinian women and girls continue to be subjected in the Gaza Strip and the West Bank.

        But to you, the entire rest of the world is magically in Hamas’ pocket because they call you out on this asinine bullshit.

        Guess Israel is a better judge of weather Israel is committing warcrimes than the UN would be right? Like asking Trump if he’s guilty of anything.

        Bombing women and children and you’re proud of it or so weakwilled you’ve bought into the propaganda saying that shooting the kids is fine, because they’re probably Hamas anyway.

        Israel is a piece of shit fascist theocracy, and currently killing and raping innocents, and defending them is morally indefensible and will be seen mostly the same as WWII era Germans who didn’t oppose the holocaust.

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          Bud your link literally has nothing to do with this post and the specific allegations in this Al Jazeera coverage of a certain report. Seems like you’re emotions are pretty heavily wrapped up in all this. Good luck with that.

          Now make a list of Hamas’s war crimes. And make a list of everyone who’s ever been prosecuted by Hamas for a war crime. The list is zero people long. How you going to sit here and condemn Israel when they at least have a justice system based on something other than total religious superstition and hysteria, which is what they have in Gaza?

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                Sure it is, lil’ trollito.

                That’s why you now ignore everything previously discussed. Because you argue that “if any of the reports are true” and then I link the UN Human Rights Office report about sexual assaults on Palestinians, and you conveniently ignore that.

                You also ignore how you’re using whataboutism, a known propaganda technique, to try to say “well, but what about Hamas’ crimes”. But weirdly you don’t answer when I ask you is Israel a member of the UN or a terrorist organisation?

                Just like I said, no limit to your mental gymnastics. IDF trolls, smh

                You don’t feel the tiniest bit guilty defending a supposedly democratic state that is slaughtering children? Over 12,300 children have been killed in Gaza. Were they all Hamas members? Or perhaps just innocent Palestinians?

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                  Bud your link did the same thing as the Al Jazeera article. It found reports troubling. It didn’t verify the reports. Hamas has as a tactic exaggerating and lying and the population helps them with it. It is working on you.

                  Oh boo hoo I didn’t answer your loaded and nonsense rhetorical question. Are you quizzing me on UN member states?

                  My position is pretty consistent I think. Not really any mental gymnastics involved. I have a consistent model.

                  I find your model inconsistent and ignorant. Do I feel guilty? No. I’m sad for the dead for sure but this was and remains part of Hamas’s plan after October 7. They should surrender but martyrdom is a revered tradition in Hamas’s Gaza, so they won’t. There answer to every ceasefire proposal is no. They could turn themselves in and scuttle the tunnels right now and not one more bomb would fall, but Hamas and their faithful literally want as many fellow civilians to die as possible. Look how well it has worked on you.

                  Tell me, is telling your countrymen that calls to evacuate are a hoax and to instead go stand on the roof of your building a legitimate tactic of resistance?

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        All of the mainstream media outlets have published articles on the UNWRA report. This is just the most recent coverage.

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          They just report them, that doesn’t verify the content. Especially since all report it as not verified.

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          Ha. That’s a good one!

          Sometimes, for some things, they have good coverage. They are playing to their audience and they are as bad as Fox News, which many people think is a very reputable organization.

          I’ll tell you what I would tell them, just because you like what they say doesn’t mean they’re reputable.