• HexadecimalSky@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    In favor of what? I still have to use control panel because some things are seemingly unreachable by the “settings” menus.

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      2 months ago

      That’s M$ intention, to hide some settings from users and lose control of Windows.

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      2 months ago

      Yeah. This sounds a lot like some PM type thinks they’re gonna get rid of control panel, and they just don’t know what all is actually in there.

      And not to mention the custom control panel applets hanging around out there from who-knows-what vendors.

  • 11111one11111@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    What a fucking piece of shit company. What’s the eta to fully learn Linux, and learn how to set up a dual boot os where Linus is daily driver but a local windows account is on its own drive for emergencies and gaming.

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      2 months ago

      If you have a USB stick handy, you could probably be dual booting into Linux Mint within an hour.

      No need to fully learn Linux before moving to that. You can do your research using Firefox on your Linux desktop. And by “research” I mean googling/DDGing things as you need to know how to do them. It starts to stick.

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    2 months ago

    I have friends who work in IT and would probably slam their head against the wall if they had to deal with Control Panel being removed.

    Are Microsoft deliberately trying to make the fabled Year of the Linux Desktop finally become a reality? Because I feel like we’re two or three more dumbfuck business moves away from this…

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    2 months ago

    My god, the amount of legacy crap in Windows.

    They ought to just start over at some point.

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    2 months ago

    Windows “god mode”: https://www.howtogeek.com/402458/enable-god-mode-in-windows-10/

    What is god mode?

    it’s simply a special folder you can enable that exposes most of Windows’ admin, management, settings, and Control Panel tools in a single, easy-to-scroll-through interface

    It’s very easy to set this up, and it also works in Windows 11. Even if Microsoft removes access to the normal Control Panel, I seriously doubt this will be taken out.

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      2 months ago

      I hate to be that guy, but why don’t you just move over to Linux already? Games work. It’s incredibly easy now. A nine year old could install and use xubuntu.

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        2 months ago

        I am past the point of having “a” computer with “an” operating system… the concept of “moving” to another OS is basically irrelevant… I use different environments for different purposes and there’s no good reason to leave potential functional value unused for the sake of ideological convictions or fanboyism or whatever. My problems now revolve around having a useful cross-platform account that has access to my files on any/all of my platforms/VMs. I do lean heavily on open source software, I prefer it to proprietary.

        More basically, an OS is not a food that you might like or dislike, it is a tool that you use when it is suited to the task. Discriminating against tools doesn’t make sense, it only limits your capabilities.

        Please read this older comment of mine, it explains my point of view on this more… and if you want to do something really interesting then try to implement Qubes and actually use it for awhile.

  • dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️@lemmy.world
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    This is never going to happen fully, because there is a ton of software and also device drivers that hook into the OG Control Panel system and install their own .cpl’s there, which are required for that hardware/software to work. The system to support those is going to have to remain in place, otherwise Microsoft is going to have a lot of very angry corporate customers and hardware vendors up their noses in short order.

    In fact, this is most likely the exact reason the Control Panel still exists behind the scenes the way it does today in Win10 and Win11. They’ll probably go to ever-greater lengths to hide it from home users, but I’d doubt they can actually remove it completely at this point.

    In fact, from TFA:

    Tip: while the Control Panel still exists for compatibility reasons and to provide access to some settings that have not yet migrated, you’re encouraged to use the Settings app, whenever possible.

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      2 months ago

      I’m sure they could keep the backend and just update the look and UI frontend though, no?

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    So… why are people upset about this? I’d say it’s about damn time. Having two settings apps is pretty ridiculous and it’s honestly crazy it’s taken them this long to ditch the control panel. I still remember people making fun of Microsoft’s inability to drop control panel in the Windows 10 era. Is there anything special about the control panel or uniquely terrible about the settings app that would warrant this kind of negative reaction? Is it because of the settings that aren’t available in settings? If they’re preparing to drop control panel that probably means they’re going to add whatever settings are still stranded on it to the new settings app, unless there’s evidence that they won’t do that.

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      The problem is that the settings app has consistently been a dumbed down, feature-sparse version of what was in the control panel for the bits it has replaced. Tweaks that experienced users have relied on for decades are simply missing in the settings app, forcing them to go back to the control panel

      If Microsoft actually re-implemented all the knobs and dials in control panel then I wouldn’t be so irritated, but we’ve been shown for the last several years that they only bother migrating the most commonly used settings.

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        2 months ago

        I bet within a decade they pivot to barely any settings at all, claiming the released experience is the only experience you’ll ever need.

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    It’d be fine if 1) everything from Control Panel is implemented and properly working and 2) everything stays consistent (because otherwise, as other folks have mentioned, at one point written tutorials even with screenshots quickly become obsolete). I don’t see this happening any time soon.

    Maybe instead of that they can start encouraging people to use the command line, although even fewer settings are reachable though there.

    • katy ✨@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      the control panel they’re taking away is largely just antiquated and not used anymore in favour of settings app anyway

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        2 months ago

        Users complain about changes being made and then they complain that change doesn’t happen enough.

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      Their settings pages are the worst; full of white space, finding what they considered “advanced” settings is usually a pain in the ass, and everything is dumbed down to a mind-numbing extent.

      I’ve hated Settings pages with a passion since they were introduced, and always typed the full .msc I was looking for.

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        I also dislike the design layout. Eg. I much prefer the control panel version of Disk Management than the settings purely from an aesthetics stand point. Each disk and their partitions are just easier to see and differentiate from others.

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      You literally can’t.

      There’s a ton of stuff you can’t do with the new garbage settings.

      Let’s not even mention that on an operating system called “Windows” you can only have one “window” of settings open. And opening new settings will just replace where you just where. Which is extremely rage inducing.

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        opening new settings will just replace where you just where

        I don’t use windows super often anymore, so I don’t really have that usecase, but man. Just imagining it makes me annoyed and angry

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            I’m pretty positive on mac OS, as an OS it’s technically quite good, but their preferences app has always been atrocious almost entirely for this reason, I want to have two preferences windows open to different pages please…

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              I hear you. I have always been a power user so I was pretty shocked when you could not open two file managers at once in OSX.

              The thing about Apple devices is they work great, as long as you do it they way they want.

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                You can have multiple finder windows in OSX, thats perfectly normal, but you cant have the network settings open next to the printer settings.

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                  Well that was not the case with the last time I used OSX. You click on finder and it would not open a second window. This is not how Windows or Gnome/Kwin work.

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    What is the benefit? The name? Call control panel “Settings” and be done with it.

    You could phase it in. “Control Panel Settings”, then “CP Settings”, then just “Settings” and Bob’s your mother’s brother!

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      Hate to break it to you but Linux doesn’t have the Windows Control Panel either. :P

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    I am curious where I’ll find the touch screen configuration utility when they do.

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      Because you touch y… wait no. That doesn’t work here.

      Let me channel my inner Microsoft and think of the most asinine…

      OK, yeah, you’ll have to touch and hold the right hand side of the screen for three seconds, then the left and the right for a further three, let go of the right and keep touching the left for three more, let go and then the settings will pop up. I call it “Son of sticky keys.”

      There will be no other way to get to those settings.

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        Flight simmers the world round will revolt if that dialog isn’t easy to get to or converted to modern format.

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    If I hadn’t already migrated to Linux after the insider crapshow, this probably would have forced me off.

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        I left Windows because of the Settings nonsense.

        12 years later you rubes are still getting fucked by this garbage. That’s why I’m here. 😂