• Rapidcreek@reddthat.com
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    10 months ago

    The Putin Caucus at work. (Trump is Putin’s lapdog. Tell your friends.)

    So I guess Moscow Mitch is back.

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      10 months ago

      Almost as if they where working for china and Russia trying to discredit the us internally but they are or too stupid or too greedy to notice.

      Or both

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    10 months ago

    Trump moved billions for the useless border wall from military funding without consulting the House.

    Just do that and write an IOU to the pentagon. Although I’m sure they won’t mind. The more Russians Ukraine blows up are less our troops will have to fight in the future.

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    10 months ago

    Honestly best thing Republicans have done in the past 20 years. Don’t get me wrong Ukraine needs US support, but this is the fault of the dinosaurs that decided Ukrainian and aid support for Israel’s genocide are synonymous.

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      10 months ago

      Ukraine support was already under fire, they tried to push it through by attaching it to the Israel package.

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        10 months ago

        Well I guess in a way they’re standing up for their principles? Anyway I just wish Ukrainian aid could just pass without support for Israel’s genocide.

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      10 months ago

      This has nothing to do with Israel. Republicans would nuke Gaza if they could.

      This is them holding up broadly popular legislation in order to make some stupid demands on “border security” so they can tell their constituents that they basically built a wall.

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        10 months ago

        Yeah I know. I’m just happy they’re fucking themselves over at the expense of Israel’s genocide, though it’s sad that Ukraine got caught up in the mess.

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    10 months ago

    Boy Libs sure do love themselves a war. Especially when it’s halfway across the world and they don’t have to send their own children to die.

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    10 months ago

    Correct me of I’m wrong, but I’m pretty sure the president has the authority to send troops to engage an enemy for up to like 60 days before needing to have anything cleared by congress.

    If this is how Republicans want to play, we could still still support Ukraine by intervening directly.

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        10 months ago

        What I wish for is that Putin trips over a dildo and suffers a spinal injury that triggers every single one of his pain receptors so that all he can experience from here on out is pure agony, effectively removing him from power and marking an end to his stupid fucking war.

        …but short of that, I’ll settle for another option that marks an end to his stupid fucking war; and while we can hope for the former, we can actually accomplish the latter.

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        10 months ago

        The last thing we want to do is show Russia that the threat of escalation is their free pass to wipe other countries off the map. The best thing we can do in terms of impact on the US, is to arm Ukraine so that they’re capable of winning this stupid fucking war on their own; but republicans are blocking that, because they don’t give a fuck about human life.

        I don’t see any good options on the table… so, what’s the least-bad option?

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        10 months ago

        Oh dang, I forgot about escalation. Which country should we feed to Putin after he’s done destroying Ukraine? Gotta keep him appeased at all costs!

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            10 months ago

            So… just sit back and hope the next country they invade is a NATO member? Got a plan B for when it isn’t?

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              10 months ago

              So you would like to march American troops into another fucking war? We have been at war over half my life, I’m done with it.

              Give those boys all they need short of boots on ground.

              If you don’t like my opinion, feel free to block me.✌️

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                Putin can end the war any minute. That’s what I’d like. But he won’t.

                Failing that, enabling Ukraine to defend itself is the next best option. That’s what I’d like. But republicans are doing their evil shit again and blocking that route.

                All of the remaining options are shit. If you don’t like what I’m proposing, dude I’m with you: I don’t like it either. This whole situation is horrible, and it’s shameful as fuck that we have politicians here in the US that are hell-bent on enabling Putin.

                …but what’s left to do? Throw our hands up and say “gg republicans, you outplayed us! Putin, Ukraine’s all yours!”?

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      …you want dead or wounded American soldiers? Disgusting.

      Edit: just to clarify, my point is that we’re all human, no matter the occupation. You shouldn’t think of sending troops like moving a chess piece. That’s someone’s family member.

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        10 months ago

        Speaking as a vet - I understand the implication. I also understand the implication of just letting Russia decimate other countries without consequence. Families are being murdered on your chess board right now whether or not they fly our colors. Russia is currently in a severely weakened state, so a full military response from the US and hopefully our allies would end the war practically over night.

        The best option is for Russia to pull out on its own - that’s not going to happen. The second best option is for Ukraine to defend itself in a manner effective enough to force Russia to withdraw - republicans are blocking that. The third best option is for the rest of the world to step in to swiftly end wars of aggression.

        The worst thing we can do is show Russia that the threat of escalation is enough to give them a free pass to just wipe other countries off the map.

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        I mean, if it’s between people who didn’t volunteer and people who did, I would have to say it should be the volunteers (US military)

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    They have actually done something good for once. God damn. I know it’s not out of the goodness of their hearts, but still, I like it. Bring on the downvotes. Yummy in my tummy.

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          I’m with you on that one, but I wish the attention from Ukraine hadn’t been completely diverted to Gaza. I’m sure Putin is very happy about it, however.

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            Dems trying to conflate the problems of Ukraine with the problems of Israel is a joke. They are not the same, and to even pretend they are is disingenuous and downright ignorant.

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      Every dollar spent on Ukraine is more Russian blood in the ground. And we get to feed the MIC.

      Good ROI if you ask me.

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        Plus, every dollar spent on Ukraine buys a lessened chance of other nuclear powers trying to invade their neighbors willy-nilly. If Russia is allowed to just invade whomever they want with minimal pushback from the world, that just emboldens more wannabe Putins to start wars of aggression or worse, build up nuclear arsenals.

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      How do you not see that Ukraine is fighting not only for itself, but for the entire Western order?

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        Ukraine is fighting for US. Self-interests and nothing else. The US has not fighting to win this war. The US is fighting to prolong this war to decimate you crane and allow corporations like Citibank and Black Rock to take over all of its resources

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      Ok then. When Ukraine falls, we’ll send in US troops to stop Russia. I take it you’ll be first in line to join them.

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        If you haven’t been paying attention Ukraine is failing, and everything we’ve been told will happen to Russia has been a lie.

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          So when you see a state fail when pulled into a war by a fascistic country, led by a psychopath dictator who has bigger desires of waging more wars after Ukraine falls, your proposal is to just let them go and fail? Do you need a history lesson on what happened a couple of decades ago when that type of appeasement went very wrong?

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              Glad you recognize this as a war instead of the russian deceptive ‘special operation’.

              And there would be no war if russia did not start one. Lets keep the facts real.

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                Russia only fired the first shot, the US/Obama started it years back. Let’s keep the facts real

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                  Wow. Putin needed to start this war so that Russians would be distracted from the fact that Putin was not good for the country. Obama had nothing to do with it.