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      In two years they can get the award for “best ongoing game” then, just like Cyberpunk :D

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        God, what a dick sucking award. Cyberpunk may be playable now, but it did fuck all to deserve that.

        Better games launched excellent and got better with age. Launching to get removed from online stores and taking years to reach playable is not the best ongoing anything.

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          It truly was a Great Gamer Gaslighting after that anime was released. Suddenly, cyberpunk was a work of art and everyone wanted to revisit it to see places from the anime. They hadn’t even done much to fix it yet at that point, and may even have still been dealing with legal stuff from all the stuff they promised that wasn’t in the game.

          The PR turn around with that game was wild to watch, it happened almost overnight. And Gamerz TM did it to themselves.

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      Thank corporate morons forcing devs to the door to meet ridiculous timelines, they don’t give a fuck if it’s ready or not.

      I’m a SWE and my manager would tell me shit like “even Apple pushed out the iPhone with some bugs”, “at some point you have to wrap it and ship it”, etc. Mgmt uses this bullshit to feel better about their (or their bosses) poorly balanced priorities and decisions.

      It’s all about announce early, bag as much interest and money as possible and then ship it regardless if it’s reached the definition of done or not (you better believe mgmt will throw those goalposts around as they see fit)

      Pre-ordering morons hold some blame here as well as they play right into the bullshit I’m talking about

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      7 months ago

      why the surprise? as long as people keep buying they will try to squize more money for less effort.

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      The worst part is that I’ve played early access games that have more shit going for them than Starfield

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    Glad to see they’re still improving it. When I get the Ultra Game of the Year Turbo Deluxe edition for $20 in years to come, I no doubt will enjoy it.

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      I think people would hate it again, seeing how they hated Starfield that is also procedural.

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        You’d have to change Daggerfall so that you can’t run, only fast travel, between dungeons and cities to truly mirror the Starfield experience.

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    I’d say “i will pick it up on a sale in a year or two” but they’re just going to release the enhanced / special / anniversary / superspace edition down the line too, so why bother

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    The main feature I want is better optimization. It’s really not good still and I’ve played with the settings more than I wanted to

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      Last months patch did a lot for optimization, especially on the cpu and non amd gpu builds, seeing double digit gains.

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      Honestly I let my Gamepass lapse and was considering re-upping it to play Starfield. And now I am for sure not going to re-up it for Starfield. Maybe I’ll visit it in a few years, but it sounds like not a great time from Nakey Jakey’s review on it.

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          Just the fact that the ship combat is awful AND you don’t get to fly your ship TO other planets makes this a pass for me.

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    When will game companies learn that they could be doing so much better if they just released their games AFTER they’re finished?

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      Reminder that Todd wanted to release this last year, imagine the state it was in lol

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        Didn’t he also say in an interview post-launch that they still hadn’t nailed down a fun core gameplay loop until a few months before it shipped?

        C’mon Todd, what are you doing?

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    I haven’t bought Starfield, was waiting for sub-$25. If there are no mods, I’m lowering that to sub-$10.

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      Seriously what a clusterfuck of a game this has been. I’m so happy I didn’t bite and buy it yet.

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    It’s nice Bethesda wants to pull a Cyberpunk, but Starfield at it’s core just isn’t as good. I’m all for some redeeming updates though, because at least there would be something to come back to

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    I should probably pick this up when it’s on sale. I bought it on release after playing CyberPunk with ray tracing and asked for a refund after playing for 20 minutes because it just looked like garbage in comparison.

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      Part of the reason why Bethesda games visually looks bad is because their tied to the hip with creation engine for modders to use. Part of the reason why bethesda games have soo many mods is because of how much of the games engine is open to modders to modify.

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        I agree. I was fine with it for Skyrim and Fallout 4 but after getting used to how gorgeous CP2077 was, the difference was jarring for a AAA title in 2023.

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        The thing is, cyberpunk also has mod support, and it’s pretty good, I use a climbing mod, a drone mancer class mod, and before the 2.1 update it already had a metro system via mod.

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          It pales in conparison to what modders do with bethesda games.

          Modders can legitamately put other games into a bethesdasoft title (tale of two wastelands, skyblivion, morrowblivion, skywind)

          Take for example, the games let you outright add your own physics engine.