I have my problems with Meta, but I’m hoping this will help Mastodon grow

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    10 months ago

    Do we really want Facebook users just for the growth? Quality beats quantity.

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      10 months ago

      The good thing about the fediverse is that instances can choose with whom they want to federate.

      In my opinion, there should always be choice and people with terrible opinions should be allowed to express them – just like others should be allowed to laugh, ignore and block them. Whether we like it or not, the fediverse includes everything from left-wing to right-wing extremists. But we can choose an instance which excludes all those unwanted posts, just like we’ll be able to block surveillance corporate instances.

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      10 months ago

      Ultimately I think I’ll end up running two accounts

      I respect if my Mastodon instance decides to defederate because of a legitimate threat from Facebook, given the company’s consistently awful history.

      There will also be some good people worth following who want to use FB’s Threads for whatever reason. If I need to, I can use some special frontend or web browser version to read the content.

      So whether we stay federated or not, at the end of the day it’ll be ok as far as being able to see things from the people I care about.

      In the meantime, I’m going to bring as many people over to the real Fediverse before people get settled into one or the other

    • katy ✨@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      10 months ago

      I do. I love my following on Threads but I hate how fragmented social media has become post Twitter. It’ll be nice to follow everyone on one account - mainstream and otherwise.

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        10 months ago

        It should be possible someday

        I’d love to skip into the future when all the activitypub stuff is set up nicely. Can’t wait

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      10 months ago

      It’s Threads, not Facebook.

      And I won’t speak for anyone else, but yes, I want as many people on the fedi as possible.

      In an ideal world I never have to log into Facebook, Twitter, IG, Threads or any of that proprietary nonsense to figure out what’s going on.

  • Rikudou_Sage@lemmings.world
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    10 months ago

    Seriously, how does that dude manage to look so inhuman? He looks like someone pretending to be human and trying really hard, but missing that one last bit.

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      10 months ago

      Reading the article, they collect the data necessary to federate with an instance. If you or I were to run our own instance we would have access to the same data.

      If they were to do anything with that data that they don’t have permission to do, like selling it. They would be in breach of the GDPR and fined 4% of their global annual income, and as we’ve seen with Apple, it’s not profitable to have two wildly separate versions of your product.

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        10 months ago

        But again, Meta is first and foremost an advertising and data harvesting company, and many people aren’t happy at the idea of being subjected to this treatment from the vantage point of their own servers.

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    10 months ago

    And just remember that a substantial amount of Lemmy users want this, because they are too blind, childish and immature to see the very real negative consequences such a move will have.

    But they only care because they’re either bots or hopelessly stupid simps.

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    10 months ago

    They will be able to dictate how mastodon works of they become larger than the rest of the instances. Their stake in the network will make them more powerful than all the other instances combined.

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      10 months ago

      They will be able to dictate how mastodon works

      How they will do that ? How are they going to dictate the programmers of Mastodon/Lemmy ?

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        There’s a concept called Embrace, Extend, Extinguish (seemingly coined, in that form, in a Microsoft antitrust lawsuit). Here’s the Wikipedia page on it: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish

        As I understand, people argue that Facebook/Meta, via Threads, will use this strategy in the long-term to either kill, or make effecitvely obsolete, the open technology behind Mastodon. If not that, then they could easily make the federation part of Threads buggy & unreliable, souring their users’ opinions on the “fediverse”.

        They don’t need to control anyone; they only need to host a majority of the userbase (by being the most popular federated site). And they’re not starting from a user count of 1 or 10, unlike a lot of Mastodon sites.

        Obviously, Mastodon & Lemmy, and the sites that run them, can keep chugging along just fine, but it’s argued that if Meta makes their federation implementation sub-par (or otherwise sabotages it), it’ll hurt the user-base growth of sites that use these projects (as people will see begin to see it as unreliable or what-not).

        Is it as doom and gloom as people make it seem? Idk, I haven’t had time to care.

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    10 months ago

    Mastodon wearing the face of activitypub and fediverse really leads everyone to think it’s only mastodon. Replace mastodon with activitypub, because there’s lots of projects that are actually innovating instead of Mastodons (x)shitter cloning.

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    10 months ago

    So seeing as the name is still threads does that mean he won the lawsuit someone filed against them to change the name as someone else already had that name for their product/company?

    Like rules only exist if you’re not a billionaire I guess…

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    10 months ago

    I dislike how the comment section is full of people hating on Mastodon people