• redcalcium@lemmy.institute
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    9 months ago

    Piracy and Star Trek communities had a lot more success migrating their communities over to lemmy compared to other communities. Not 100% success as many opposed to the migration (I remember seeing big drama on r/piracy back then, and lesser drama on r/startrek), but a good chuck of them was successfully migrating to lemmy.

    Edit: wait, I didn’t realized it’s @db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com himself that made this post. Man, I don’t know how you’re able keep going with encouraging redditors to migrate to lemmy with how redditors that stay on r/piracy was treating you. I say good riddance! Your hard work paid off!

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        Bro, this community rocks, I didn’t ditch Reddit completely but god all the time I head to /r/piracy are the same repeated memes all over again, here we have actual discussion.

        As /r/piracy was one of my favorite subreddits, if not the favorite I always was scared Reddit would vanish it… Well not anymore, I am glad Lemmy happened so we have this awesome community, possibly forever.

        BTW my lemm.ee account was created due to my prior lemmy.world blocking this community, I know they backtracked that decision, but I am so comfortable here that I didn’t even bother to go back.

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          Lol, for me it was similar, I had a few things I didn’t like about lemm.ee so I ditched my account there and went here by accident (well just by searchimg and it fulfilling all my needs and a ton more things), ended up liking this instance a ton so it became my daily driver

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              Well first they support file uploads, second I feel like everyone I ever met from this instance was nice to everyone (sure that can be because it’s smaller but it also has less controversies (i.e. what the dude I was replying to, the lemmy.world blocking us) due to the overall nature of this instance)

              Went here for the file uploads, stayed for the community, that’s what I can personally say

              I’d suggest the switch for you

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              9 months ago

              What exactly is the issue with our admins? If you feel you’ve received some unjustified moderation, feel free to contact me and I can have a look.

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        My memory is hazy, but during the subreddit protest, he was somehow removed from moderator list (did the admins got involved?), and the sub reopened shortly after. From then on, any thread about migration to Lemmy is full of people roasting each other. It was awful. No idea why those who remains were so vehemently opposed to migration of a piracy community. It’s not like you can openly discuss piracy stuff on Reddit without risking removal by the admins.

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          9 months ago

          Not to sound too tinfoil-hatty, but I wouldn’t be surprised if some of that was sock puppet accounts. When you don’t want people to unify and leave, just start a flame war!

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      9 months ago

      How did redditors treat him? I was subscribed to the sub and I have no idea who db0 is. I recently learned that db0 owns the lemmy.dbzer0.com instance but I don’t know anything beyond that.

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    I don’t pirate games anymore because steam solved my access problem.

    Amazing that all these shitty streaming services make me wish blockbuster was a thing again.

    But, since it isn’t and never will be, it’s a yo ho ho from me.

    (Until a reasonable steam-esque service for movies/shows turns up anyway)

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      Until you think it might be fun to play 2 games on 2 different monitors on 2 computers at the same time. Then you realise, Steam games are not treated as just software. 1 of the many reasons I prefer to pay the price for GoG despite Steam being significantly cheaper due to regional pricing.

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        No idea what you’re talking about; I’ve played two games from steam plenty of times while waiting for something in a game.

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          Hmm. I remember steam saying it can’t run a game because the same account was using a game on another PC. Maybe something changed since then. I’ll check it out again. Thanks for the info.

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            You’re correct, the other commenter missed the “2 computers” part of your comment.

            You can run multiple Steam games at the same time on the same PC, but not on different PCs.

            That is, unless you take advantage of Steam’s “offline” mode. If you launch Steam in offline mode on the secondary computer, you’ll be able to play already-downloaded Steam games on that PC, while still being free to play Steam games normally on the primary computer.

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              This seems to be one way of them trying to prevent piracy.

              The situation here is that the game soundtracks I bought on are not prevented from download and I am able to use it on any device I want. Despite that, it never came to my mind to pirate it. Same for the GoG games. But there still exist enough pirated steam games out there.

              It can be simply concluded that the people who don’t want to pirate, will buy the stuff and not pirate it no matter how easy you make it, whereas those who want to pirate it will actually be more zealous in pirating stuff that makes it harder to do so.

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    I had not realised this before, that there are multiple versions of the same community on different instances. For example there are multiple meme communities on different instances.

    I wonder how this affects engagement considering that although there might be one large community there are several smaller ones. Perhaps not everyone assumes that there’s a larger community on a different instance.

    Also how does this affect niche communities where it may be that due to high fragmentation these communities might seem unusually small.

    Further, if these niche communities remain unusually smaller than there Reddit counter parts would users leave do to perhaps lack of content versus their Reddit counter parts.

    This is kind of a chicken and egg - users migrate or engage the more activity there is and it may lead to discouragement if their first impression is that there isn’t content.

    I don’t know I’m probably rambling and don’t know what I’m talking about.

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      The same is true in reddit. You have multiple communities effectively about the same thing. Eventually one settles into the “primary” one

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        I wonder if there shouldn’t be a way of federating duplicate groups after the fact so one doesn’t have to “win”, they just all combine as one.

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          9 months ago

          I thought Lemmy already had a solution for this that overlaps communities with the same name

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          I’ve had exactly this same thought. Doing it client-side seems easy enough, it’s just like creating a multi-reddit and then when you want to post you have to choose which instance to post in.

          The hard part is probably that these communities will have different moderators and different rules which complicates things substantially.

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      It’s an issue that could be solved within lemmy where communities with the same name should be able to merge and show each others content.

      It also happens when users join and pick the largest community at the time, which may be overtaken later but the user will never know unless they often go looking

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        It’s an issue that could be solved within lemmy where communities with the same name should be able to merge and show each others content.

        This is bad idea though, unless if it’s an optional feature that the users themselves choose to activate (e.g similar to multireddit, but you don’t have to manually curate the communities yourself). Imagine the same community from two opposing instances (e.g. blahaj and hexbear) somehow got merged by default. That would be an absolute shitshow. Also, how would moderation work? Those communities often have different moderation rule. Can mods from one community remove posts from another community with the same name? This would also be an absolute shitshow.

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            Nah. Make the mods battle in a gladiatorial arena for my enjoyment. Winner get the userbase.

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          Aliasing would work here. Allow a user to create an alias “meme” community that contains multiple meme based comunities. So when a user submits content to the alias the home server can just publish it on all communities. This is only user visible, so the community itself doesn’t change… but from a user perspective you see more content under the same alias. Posts made this way could also have some additional Metadata to condense them together when you see the same post on multiple communities.

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          This should be an optional feature for moderators. Mods from both communities must virtually shake hands and merge their communities into one. They could tweak how cross-moderation works. If one side becomes unmanageable, the other side can cut the line and split the community again.

          Genuinely sounds like a solid idea to me. There are some lingering questions - both technical and non-technical - but they’re fairly small. Such as:

          1. How easy or hard is it to implement?
          2. When communities merge, do their histories merge too or do only new posts show up to both? (My opinion: only new posts)
          3. When a merged community splits, do both sides keep a full copy of the posts from the time they were merged, or do they delete the posts that were posted to the other community? (My opinion: keep the history)
          4. Do they have to match everything - community description, exact wording of rules, graphics, exact name, etc - or do they just need to show each other’s posts? (My opinion: just show each other’s posts. It should basically be an automatic cross-post.)
          5. Should Lemmy software make this apparent to users, or should the responsibility lie on the mods to make the announcement? This question could be asked separately for merge events, split events, and the merged steady state - i.e. should Lemmy show some info about it while the communities are merged. (My opinion: I think especially for splits, it’s important to let the users know especially if the mods want to hide it. The other cases I think it could be left up to the mods, although it would do no harm if Lemmy let you know which communities are merged)

          My opinion to those questions is what I think is the “right” way to do it, but I also suspect my opinions to 2-4 are the easiest to implement.

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      Ah, I thought that might be the case. I did check that lemmy.world communities are listed to ensure it’s not hiding them when I checked and I saw some.

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    I for one didn’t know about Lemmy until the redit piracy community moved here.

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      I think I might be one of the very few reddit admins who took the move to lemmy seriously and that’s why we managed to succeed so well.

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    I just want to say db0 thanks for pythorhead!! definitely made my bot a bit easier to write.

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      It might not seem much, but God Bless You (with the caps) for posting these. You couldn’t be more on point.