• RealFknNito@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    It looks fun, smooth, but I can’t unsee how much shit they’ve ripped off and killing Pokemon just rubs me the wrong way.

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      A comment I saw on another forum basically pointing out that Palworld demonstrates the gigantic demand for a real new Pokemon game that isn’t whatever Scarlet was.

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      What did they rip off? There are over a thousand pokemon, most of which are very similar to real animals or mythical creatures so you’re inevitably going to have some similarities. If there were actually copyright infringement going on, Nintendo would be all over it. Don’t tell me anubis (the pal) copied lucario when lucario copied anubis (the god)

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        Breath of the Wild - Stamina meter in the same style, position, and orientation. Glider and air movement, (Haven’t checked if they ripped off the cliffside climbing too but probably.)

        Pokemon - At least half their designs are 80% likeness to already existing Pokemon, you use ‘balls’ to capture the creatures when they’re weak enough, you use these captured creatures to fight for you, you’re considered a ‘trainer’.

        Like do I really need to spell out every fucking piece of this game that was stolen to you? Taking tons of shit from other games and mashing it into a new game is not creative, shouldn’t be celebrated, and damn sure isn’t legal. Nintendo have already confirmed they’ve only recently been made aware of it and are “investigating” it. The fact it hasn’t been Thanos snapped yet doesn’t mean it won’t be.

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          There’s no way Nintendo is “only just aware of it” when the trailer was from 1-2y ago. If they had anything obvious to stand on, they’d have blasted it before release.

          The stamina meter with gliders. Looks like genshin. But was it really novel in genshin? Should we complain that RD ripped off witcher bc you can ride a horse? Mechanics like this are not legally protected, which is a good thing or someone would patented the minimap and the game industry would suck.

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            Genshin stole it from BOTW too but the difference is Genshin didn’t also rip off Pokemon or another Nintendo IP so it’s more forgettable. This company has only made games copying Nintendo and has culminated their theft into this ‘magnum opus’. Pretty sure Nintendo was waiting for them to release the game so they have a profit number to directly point to for damages instead of just a ‘cease and desist’.

            Stop coping. Almost every part of Palworld can be directly tied with at least 80% accuracy to a Nintendo game of recent memory. I don’t know why you guys need to do such complicated mental gymnastics to not admit this is a borderline asset flip using copyrighted shit.

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              Other people can make shit that’s like other shit. Nearly all creative media of modern origin is mixtures and rearrangements of at least the ideas behind other works. You’re reading like an old man yelling at a cloud.

              Should Sonic The Hedgehog not exist? it’s clearly a platformer trying to rip off Mario. Should the Spyro or Rayman have never been allowed to happen? Clearly they were just trying to rip off SM64.

              Your complaint is that someone who isn’t the Pokémon company made a game about capturing animals and making them fight for you. And that someone who isn’t Nintendo made a game where you can climb and glide. And, I assume, someone who isn’t Mojang made a game about survival and crafting mechanics? Did you complain when Fortnite “stole” the entire battle royale formula from PUBG? Or Apex Legends? Did you complain when Overwatch “stole” TF/TF2 from Valve? Or when Quake “stole” DOOM? Do you think none of these should have been made?

              You’re misunderstanding people’s lack of caring about the “stealing” (lmao) for a lack of understanding.

              If Nintendo and The Pokémon Company don’t want to deal with this kind of direct competition, they should pull their heads out of their asses and start delivering meaningfully good Pokémon games instead of the series of recent corner-cutting yearly trainwrecks. A demand has created a supply. Cope.

              EDIT: Wow nevermind lmao. I see the rest of your emotional thrashing in the rest of this thread. You’re just mad something looks like something you like, but is different in ways you don’t like. You think this somehow devalues your choices and preferences and “emotional bonds” with your Pokémon. Not true. You think others enjoying something you don’t like makes you “wrong”. Not true. I think your value system is damaged and you’re defensive as fuck. Try ignoring this game exists, you’ll feel better. And you know, if you’re right, I guess it’ll be gone soon, right?

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          BOTW - None of the things you mentioned were original for that game either. I remember gliding around as Spyro all the way back in the 90’s. Even the Just Cause series had them before Zelda. Stamina bars have been in so many games I think you’d need an archeologist to work out where they originated from.

          The Pals are obvious rip-off Pokémon, but as Nintendo / Gamefreak don’t give a shit about making a half-decent game from their own IP, I think it becomes fair game for other companies to have a crack at it.

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            Really? So a glider that operates exactly the same as a popular game by Nintendo, Creatures that heavily resemble a popular game by Nintendo, and HUD elements that heavily resemble a popular game by Nintendo, are all just totally coincidentally in the same game, shortly after these games made it popular?

            If there was a spiky purple dragon that was running around collecting gems named Singe, yeah, I’d probably call them out for copying Spyro. But Palworld circlejerkers are so delusional to try and defend this game by saying “Well, these other games had something kinda similar”. You know what they’re doing. You’d have to be a toddler or huffing a lethal dose of copium to not.

            I get you guys want a protest game and that’s fine but does it really have to be this low effort? They could have went a totally different direction and used more realistic monsters, made it dark and a little gritty to match the themes, actually do some work to make it only a vague thought not use 95% accurate models with a fucking color pallet swap. I have emotional attachments to some Pokemon because I grew up around them, learned their personalities, and now there’s a game where I stick a pump shotgun down their throat to ‘capture’ them. Not exactly chomping at the bit for that.

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      I can get over the Pokemon ripoff, my issue is their earlier, unfinished, semi abandoned game craftopia.

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        The little Breath of the Wild stamina meter and glider kinda drive me up a wall. They’re just adding the same shit they’ve nabbed and put into that game and threw fuckin Pokemon in it.

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          And that made it fun. I played Ark, didn’t like it. I played Craftopia, wasn’t a fan. But I have way too many hours in Palworld already. They took a bunch of game mechanics and executed them well together.

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          The more I scroll, the more of your diatribe I see.

          You know that third person game mechanics was a thing before either game existed, yeah? Did they both steal that too?

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            Yeah and the third dimension was also a thing bef- shut the fuck up you know what I’m saying. Your cope to defend this game is a lethal dose.