Apple Has Sold Approximately 200,000 Vision Pro Headsets::Apple has sold upwards of 200,000 Vision Pro headsets, MacRumors has learned from a source with knowledge of Apple’s sales numbers. Apple began…

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          Keep in mind they probably spent more than that amount of money on R&D / aqua-hiring.

          It’s a lot of money, but still not enough to be a commercially successful product for at least a few more years.

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            Over 700 million? I find that dubious. 700 million is a lot of money isnt it? Thats what I’d expect a tank or a jet to cost in R&D.

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              R&D for a jet or tank is significantly more. To not throw out nonsense some quick googling told me the R&D just for an upgrade of the Abrams tank (which is old) is $650m and the total R&D of the F22 jet over two decades was $32B…

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                Well, nice to know somebody lives in such a peaceful part of the planet to not be interested in cost of creating a tank or a jet.

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      I’d say that’s certainly enough to attract developers given it’s barely out.

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    I am insanely interested but the apple ecosystem sucks. I use a MacBook for work because it’s that or Windows, but good lord do i hate the closed source walled garden. Linux at home ftw.

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      MacOS is waaay better for that than iOS though. If you squint a little and try to stick to the CLI, you can pretend it’s Linux.

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          That docker engine still runs in a small Linux vm.

          And the m1, m2, etc chips killed the use of VirtualBox for running full fledged vms :/

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            but that’s hardly a viable desktop experience on its own.

            Wat?

            I just don’t get it, have you tried using Linux on desktop or are you just repeating standard phrases about it thinking that sounds normal?

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              I think you might have thought I was saying “Linux doesn’t offer a viable desktop experience.” That is not what I’m saying. I’ve installed Linux distros on all sorts of machines, including Macs, and happily used it as a daily driver.

              I’m saying that a Docker container on a Macbook can’t offer a viable desktop experience.

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      I LOVE LOVE LOVE how I can open the screen on my mac and immediately continue where I left off. I love how the entire laptop is made out of metal that doesn’t bend or warp and whose hinge works today just like it did half a decade ago.

      I hate everything else about the mac, especially how I have to pay inflated prices for everything. I hate even more about how fucking hard it is to get into the actual nitty gritty system settings on a mac. If I could find a reasonably priced laptop with great build quality and immediate boot, I’d throw my mac in the garbage or sell it off to someone else who would appreciate it much more.

      I guess I dont really need to mention I’m poor. If I wasnt Id already have got a second laptop that ran not-macOS

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    First reviews I saw on YouTube are quite disappointing. They really ship it with a powerbank and even without it this thing weights about 600 grams. I cannot imagine wearing this thing all day and do work or eh … what the fuck are you gonna do with this besides games and watching videos??

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      Games? It doesn’t even have controllers. There’s going to be no HL Alyx on this thing.

      The only interesting thing I’ve seen is that Disney have suddenly woken up and decided to put their 3D movies on it, so hopefully they’ll end up on the other millions of VR headsets as well, or at least get released in a format I can steal and watch however I want…

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      The ecosystem will grow around it. You need to build it first, and then devs will build their stuff on top of the hardware you build.

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        I live in So Cal and in a couple weeks there will be a vintage computing fest. Maybe all the haters and people downvoting you could show up and find out what people used to pay $10,000 to put up with. It’s like they want nothing novel to exist.

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    I never knew so many people would buy an AR headset of apple.

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      I’m assuming the numbers must include retail stores purchasing the product to sell to their customers too? Or are these direct to consumer numbers only?

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          It requires a face scan from your iPhone or MacBook to order one.

          I imagine that’s going to make scalping harder?

          Edit: not that they can’t, but it wasn’t bots buying it all.

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            That’s mostly about Light Seal and optical lenses which come in literally thousands of combinations.

            You can buy them separately - and you will have to with a scalped (or secondhand) headset.

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      How’s it any different than regular VR sets besides price? I don’t own any apple stuff besides an iPad for my kid, but outside of the absurd cost I don’t see the difference between this and the Index or something.

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        People like to find any reason to hate on Apple.

        And there are plenty of reasons to hate them, but just for releasing a product is very low on the list.

        Had HTC or Valve released this, there’d be constant praise on here.

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          but just for releasing a product is very low on the list.

          It’s not about releasing a product it’s about how they go about it ( the marketing, the pricing… Etc ) it’s so manipulative and relies on people not knowing their Digital rights and what they should expect from a Digital product.

          The thing is that they abused their monopoly so much, they manipulated people so much, they enslaved people ( both on the Digital realm and the physical one ) so much, that now I and so many awakened people are so critical of everything they do. And it’s understandable why we’re like that, we simply don’t trust them.

          Had HTC or Valve released this, there’d be constant praise on here.

          This seems like a logical fallacy, we’re talking about Apple here, HTC and Valve can wait for their turn, and you can’t predict what people will say !!

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          Nah there woulden’t Also Apple makes lifestyle devices that Serge a very different purpose than a gaming headset thats only worn for short times to play games instead of using it to do daily tasks Also bith companies Make vastly More Modification friendly products so even while what they produce may be shit (which would suck and i wouldnt purchase ) people would find ways to fix the issues and could buy what is good and use stuff from different companies if the product sucks because you aren’t locked into a valve or HTC eco system

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    Has anybody seen the movie WALL-E?

    It’s probably a bit of a stretch, but I feel like this is somehow the genesis/precursor of the hoverchairs that all the adults use for everything.

    (God, I hope not.)

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      Have you ever seen a group of 20something friends at dinner together where each person was on their phone ignoring the others? At least with the Apple headset they would be deliberate about their intentions.

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        Wouldn’t be so sure about that. Now they can look at their screens and maintain eye contact. Sounds like a win/win to me.

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          That’s hilarious. Geezers like me will probably assume they are just a group of wholesome and very nearsighted kids.

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    These things somehow look even dumber than Google Glass, but Apple made them, so I guess they are the height of fashion now…

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    I’m impressed. It speaks to the strength of the Apple brand. Meta should benefit if this becomes the next thing despite the differences.

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      I dont really think it speaks for the strength of the Apple brand, rather, how many fan-boys they have that buy literally a rock with an apple logo on it for $10k. Knowing well they cant use it anywhere except with apple products.

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          Yeah “Apple isn’t a strong brand” is an absolutely insane take.

          They are one of the strongest brands in human history lol

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          strength of the brand i understand how good their products is. But ok, now i know it!

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        Also a lot of people like being “the first”. Especially with products that might be successful. Currently Apple has a decent reputation in being “the first” with their adaption of new tech. They made the smartphone big, the tablet and the smartwatch (they even specifically made gold ones for these early adopters). All “meh products” before their version. Now people want to be the first with “the next successful tech”. …. And you are going to love it.

        It al comes down to emotion really.

        Can’t wait for the first music video clip with a famous person wearing the thing. (I actually can wait).

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          The last real inovation they added was the tablet change my mind. The others are just pr gags or just revisioning the last thing for the 15th time.

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            Al of them were beter implementations of existing tech, even the tablet. (With beter I mean they changed the market for said tech in their point of time, more accessibility, user friendly etc).

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              But decrease repairability, (software) freedom. And then the price for that. In the early day, the cheap things were locked down for only be usable on with specific other products, now its the opposite, the more it cost, the more locked down and less products work (well) with it.