• brian@programming.dev
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    8 months ago

    This is just misinformed.

    Sure your favorite apps may not use it, but Wayland does provide protocols for drawing things over other apps. https://wayland.app/protocols/wlr-layer-shell-unstable-v1

    I never used guake with i3 since scratchpads exist and are the general solution, and sway works fine there.

    and there’s plenty of screenshot apps that work. I haven’t tried gnome-screenshot, but I find it hard to believe that it or some alternative gnome one doesn’t work given the effort the project has put into Wayland

    nvidia support isn’t great but it is getting better. I haven’t bought nvidia in forever but I know plasma and gnome both say they have support for Wayland on nvidia now.

    For gaming amd is great, for real work I’d just rent time on some cloud service lol. If I’m that worried about performance my one consumer gpu isn’t going to make a dent either

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      8 months ago

      He’s wrong all of this works on Wayland.

      I used a 3080 on Wayland and the only thing that didn’t work was night light (red tint mode). At this time nvidia-open was marked as not viable for desktop. In 6.7 noveau has gsp support so the open source path has improved rapidly.

      It was shortly after their hack that they announced partnership with RedHat / Canonical devs to make their graphics driver better. It’s going to have a similar arch to how the AMD drive is under the name nvidia-open. However the proprietary driver does work on Wayland at this point in time.

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      8 months ago

      I’m using Fedora, which has both gnome-screenshot and wayland. Been about 2-3y now and idfk what he’s talking about, never had an issue.

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        8 months ago

        yeah that’s weird, and I can’t really tell why, but then that’s a gnome problem not a Wayland problem. they’re explicitly choosing to not support it.

        I did find this though which seems to imply that it could be supported in mutter, but it’d take a fork if you wanted to implement it in gnome shell https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/-/issues/973

        anyway, there’s choice. if you need these features use something that supports them

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      8 months ago

      Nvidia works great on Wayland. Even unusual configuration I’m running with egpu hooked up to a laptop with another Nvidia card built in. Zero issues. I’m allergic to Gnome, but KDE works beautifully.

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      So no apps worth mentioning work, and only gaming (which doesn’t work on Linux) is benefitted? Sway is dead and most of those other replacements are just worse. Yeah DOA like I said.

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        8 months ago

        have you seen steam deck sales? linux gaming is mainstream. everything I’ve tried recently just works.

        When would you think sway is dead lol? it has way more commits than i3, same number of contributors, and the last commit was 7 minutes ago. i3 hasn’t been touched in months. i3 is dead, contributors have jumped to sway

        also, even if you aren’t using scratchpads over guake, guake runs on Wayland. https://github.com/Guake/guake/issues/1934

        idk why all the people against Wayland are so clueless lol, it feels intentionally ignorant at this point

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          i3wm is a 15 year old feature complete window manager not a JavaScript framework. It isn’t dead if it hasn’t had a new release this month.

          The last commit was 4 days ago the last release 4 months or so ago. It has again seen continuous development for 15 years.