Bangladeshi residents and others in Monfalcone say decisions to prohibit worship at cultural centres and banning burkinis at the beach is part of anti-Islam agenda

Bangladeshi residents and others in Monfalcone say decisions to prohibit worship at cultural centres and banning burkinis at the beach is part of anti-Islam agenda

The envelope containing two partially burned pages of the Qur’an came as a shock. Until then, Muslim residents in the Adriatic port town of Monfalcone had lived relatively peacefully for more than 20 years.

Addressed to the Darus Salaam Muslim cultural association on Via Duca d’Aosta, the envelope was received soon after Monfalcone’s far-right mayor, Anna Maria Cisint, banned prayers on the premises.

“It was hurtful, a serious insult we never expected,” said Bou Konate, the association’s president. “But it was not a coincidence. The letter was a threat, generated by a campaign of hate that has stoked toxicity.”

Monfalcone’s population recently passed 30,000. Such a positive demographic trend would ordinarily spell good news in a country grappling with a rapidly declining birthrate, but in Monfalcone, where Cisint has been nurturing an anti-Islam agenda since winning her first mandate in 2016, the rise has not been welcomed.

  • BaardFigur@lemmy.worldEnglish
    12·
    4 months ago

    It’s about not tolerating the intolerant. There’s no rights for women, illegal to be gay etc, according to sharia law. Muhammed was a slave owner, and had multiple wives (including a 6 year old child) and concubines. Most muslims in western countries do far more crime than the locals. Why should we be ok with these people tearing apart everything our ancestors built?

    • fastandcurious@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      4 months ago

      Huh? Why does every discussion on muslim rights always start getting to Muhammad when y’all can’t justify your hypocrisy, how many modern day muslims have slaves or multiple wives/marry under the present age of consent in your country? The topic is why are you taking away their basic rights guaranteed to them by your country itself, if they do any of the things mentioned above in the present day, then that should be dealt separately

      Most muslims in western countries do far more crimes than locals

      Sauce?

      And arab countries are not a very great example in most things but one thing you can’t deny is that they have extremely low crime rates

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_Arab_Emirates

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Saudi_Arabia

      A simple google search was enough from on your side, but since you don’t seem to be arguing in good faith, I put some wiki links for you

        • fastandcurious@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          4 months ago

          Can you provide me an English link? My browser can’t seem to be able to translate it

          Edit: nvm got it

        • fastandcurious@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          4 months ago

          I can’t seem to find one that sorts by religion, can you provide me an English with link to the exact page?

          And if having a death penalty for being a rapist (I am not talk about minorities here) means a lot less no. of overall women raped, than I am more than happy tbh, the rules are strict but they also mean it is a lot lot safer, a person is gonna think twice before stealing your hard earned mac because of the fear of amputation (even though it’s not commonly done)

          My current city is suffering with a rape epidemic, and the reason for that is most people can get out of jail after a few months if they provide enough money or have enough power, if they just announce that death penalty, I’d be happy

          But we are drifting off topic here

          • BaardFigur@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            4 months ago

            I can’t seem to find one that sorts by religion, can you provide me an English with link to the exact page?

            You can look at which countries are overrepresented, and what the Islam populations of these contries are. Compare that to the underrepresented countries.

            Furthermore there’s countless of news articles about violent riots caused by muslims, and murder attempts towards Quran burners. And that’s just Norway. The situation in Sweden has been extreme lately, far worse than in Norway, or anywhere else in Europe. It got so bad that they asked the military for help. I will give you countless sources, but right now I’m at work, and don’t have time

            • fastandcurious@lemmy.worldEnglish
              2·
              4 months ago

              Uh, maybe let’s say you are right, I can’t seem to make heads nor tails of the website, but if that’s the case, then I could see where you are coming from, but I still think that discriminating an entire religious group that makes up 25% of the world population for some bad actors is till racism

              Edit: but why are you guys burning quran anyway?

              • BaardFigur@lemmy.worldEnglish
                1·
                4 months ago

                Murder attempt: https://youtu.be/rMGBz5Zxld4 Rioting: https://youtu.be/oQSBqdEt-Bo More rioting and aggressiveness https://youtu.be/feCEk81OATQ Even more rioting: https://youtu.be/FlfgiSEiTfY Even more rioting: https://www.bt.no/hendelser/i/wAQRoo/eritrea-demonstrasjon-endte-i-slagsmaal-politiet-ber-folk-holde-seg-unna Swedish military having to get involved due to kurdish gang violence in Sweden: https://www.tv2.no/nyheter/sverige-forsvaret-skal-hjelpe-politiet-i-gjengkrigen/16089740/

                Etc, you get the point. Who are burning the quran? SIAN (Stopp islamisering av Norge - Stop Islamization of Norway). It’s a legitimate critisism towards against an anti-western religion that is getting increased footing in Norway.

                A religion isn’t a race, so it’s not racism. It’s not just some bad actors, it’s a disproportionally higher amount than any other group. When 25% of the world population are muslims, why does Norway/Europe need to take them in as refugees? Europe itself has less than 10% of the world population, and Norways has less than 1% of Europes population. It’s way better for all parties if they’re taken in by someone with a more similar culture, instead.

                • fastandcurious@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  1·
                  4 months ago

                  It’s upto norway to decide whether they want to take Muslims or not, so I am not gonna debate that, and from here I guess you are right that maybe a particular group might be causing more problems than others, but then I think you should clearly spell it out and say muslims will be under extra scrutiny/different laws, don’t put on the image of secularism, which is my entire point

                  It’s a legitimate criticism towards against an anti western religion that is getting increased footing in norway

                  Okay I am genuinely curious here, I am not very well versed about what’s going on in norway but I surely haven’t heard anything major like muslims planning a coup and overthrowing the government, or is this something else I don’t know

                  • BaardFigur@lemmy.worldEnglish
                    1·
                    4 months ago

                    There’s a pressure towards EU/EØS countries to take in so called “quota refugees”. Norway is way to willing in that regard. Our politicians, and unfortunately way to many people living here, are taking them in way too willingly.

                    Secularism: imo all religions, even christianity should be threated as a cult. Secularism should be less about freedom of religion, and more about freedom from religion. Doesn’t mean I want to burn down all of our churches and history, just that we should move forward with less religion rather than more.

                    About overthrowing, there may not be any concrete plan, but many muslims share the same goal of “spreading their faith”. Lebanon is an example of a country that got destabilized into a civil war, after taking in too many palestinian refugees, turning it into a muslim majority country.