• zerog_bandit@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    I love all the comments like “Biden isn’t being tough enough on Israel! Biden isn’t stopping the genocide!”

    Besides the fact that people are asking Biden to do something that directly hurts US foreign policy interests…

    Do they REALLY think that the Republican party is on the side of stopping brown people dying? Biden in office is probably the most gentle response Palestine is going to get for 10/7. Republicans are frothing at the mouth to boost JDAM and Paveway kit sales.

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      If preventing a genocide is hurting “foreign policy interests”, then those interests are shite.

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      Supporting Israel’s genocide of Palestinians is directly harming the US’ foreign policy interests.

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        The entire point of Israel’s genocide in the end is to perpetuate war and conflict so rightwing nutjobs like Netanyahu can retain power by killing people and claiming they are keeping people safe instead of doing actual leadership work and passing effective policy to save people.

        In that sense Israel’s genocide makes the entire world less safe by empowering strongman leaders like this.

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      The foreign policy of most on the right is basically “Turn it all to glass.” Which is terrifying.

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      Are you seriously incapable of viewing Biden’s actions outside of a lens related to the upcoming election?

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        It’s almost as though some people are incapable of holding two thought in their head at the same time: the RNC is absolutely fascist and pro-genocide, and Biden is doing the wrong thing in this specific situation and should be criticized for it. If all criticism of a president must stop, you live in a dictatorship. This one just happens to be a two party dictatorship where one awful party is kept from criticism by the threat of the other being even worse.

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        Literally everything every politician does is towards their next re-election. Literally everything. It’s ignorant to think otherwise.

        Part of representing their constituents is to satisfy the most voters to vote for them in the future. It’s not a hard concept.

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          This is a total non-sequitur, you don’t seem to understand the conversation you’re involved in and nothing about your other responses suggests there might be an intelligent conversation to be had were it corrected.

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      How does that even make sense? GOP being worse doesn’t mean that Biden is doing a great job. He’s bloody well FUNDING and ARMING the genocidal IDF. That there is a worse option doesn’t make Biden’s actions in any way “good”.

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      Besides the fact that people are asking Biden to do something that directly hurts US foreign policy interests…

      Why would enabling the genocide of Palestinians benefit US foreign policy?

      Also, isn’t our current beef with Yemen and the 96% drop off in Suez traffic a direct result of Israel’s War in Gaza? Isn’t keeping the Suez open to traffic pursuant to US foreign policy?

      Do they REALLY think that the Republican party is on the side of stopping brown people dying?

      I think that America is a Fascist Nation enabling the will of some of the most deranged and brutal regimes in human history. Between the Israelis, the Saudis, the Indian Hinduvistas, and the Duterte/Marcos cartel in the Philippians, we’ve got - bare minimum - four Fascist regional governments that we are falling over ourselves to help perpetuate atrocities of nightmarish proportions.

      Republicans and Democrats seem to be in alignment in supporting all of these horrifying campaigns of mass slaughter. If this is the future of American politics, our government deserves to fail and I pray that our failed state is wiped from the face of the Earth.

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        The US does not negotiate with terrorists. The US is not going to abandon it’s interests just because some anti-semitic people don’t like the US supporting Israel. It is directly contrary to the US foreign policy interests because it signals that the US is willing to abandon allies in the face of attack. Imagine if the US had withdrawn support from Israel after 9/11, an attack which was specifically in retaliation for US support of Israel.

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          The US does not negotiate with terrorists.

          Government Negotiations with Terrorists: US Edition

          Also:

          Negotiating with Terrorists, from the Journal of Police Negotiation, 2001

          There is no evidence that hard-line policies reduce terrorism or even discourage political extremists. It is a given that negotiation with both types of political extremist should be undertaken, with terrorists requiring very special handling. Examples of two scenarios of airplane hijackings are given with the advice that the terrorist will be a catalyst for tragedy if a misstep is made in negotiations. This article does not present solutions, but raises awareness of the difficulties involved and the need for help, even in the realm of the exotic, along with qualified special consultants being sought to offer advice.

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      This is the worst case scenario for Gazans and people who know them. They don’t care about Biden’s infrastructure record or Trump’s position on NATO.

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          To you. For them they’ve already lost entire branches of their extended families. A figurative nuke already went off for them.

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            Oh dear, have they done anything to stop 20 years of build-up of tunnels and weapons underneath them?

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                Why would I try to stop something that I fully support? Last time I checked, the US doesn’t have a policy of slaughtering civilians.

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                    It’s the exact same definition in the Geneva convention: proportional military casualties.

                    But feel free to simp for dictatorships that literally execute people for thought crime.