In the popular imagination of many Americans, particularly those on the left side of the political spectrum, the typical MAGA supporter is a rural resident who hates Black and Brown people, loathes liberals, loves gods and guns, believes in myriad conspiracy theories, has little faith in democracy, and is willing to use violence to achieve their goals, as thousands did on Jan. 6.

According to a new book, White Rural Rage: The Threat to American Democracy, these aren’t hurtful, elitist stereotypes by Acela Corridor denizens and bubble-dwelling liberals… they’re facts.

The authors, Tom Schaller, a professor at the University of Maryland, Baltimore County, and Paul Waldman, a former columnist at The Washington Post, persuasively argue that most of the negative stereotypes liberals hold about rural Americans are actually true.

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    8 months ago

    I’m always amazed that a bunch of redneck, Southern, city haters decided that a rich, Manhattan developer was one of them

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        Pawns, yes. Dumb, stupid as in an inherent trait, no. Just used and discarded by corporate America over the last 70 years or so.

        It used to be, in the earlier part of the last century, that you could get as good an education in a small town as in a big city, and a lot of rural folk prided themselves on NOT being dumb hicks. WWI brought them out of the countryside by the scores and raised the expectations for all. These people went off to the wars, went to college on the GI Bill, and even came back to run their farms. This was the norm sixty years ago. This was the life my parents and grandparents lived, on both sides. They were never good at accepting differences in others, but education was HIGHLY valued, and sloth was the greatest failure of character anyone could imagine.

        But now, look at corporate America, and especially BigAg, for stripping small towns of everything that made for good living and a pleasant life in rural communities. Walmart came and drove all the small stores out of business. Ace Hardware and others came and drove all the small hardware shops out. McDonalds and Waffle House came and drove all the little diners out of business. Fifty years ago, ALL the individual trades were well represented and thriving in rural areas, because everyone, rich or poor, still needed plumbers and blacksmiths and print shops and seamstresses, and it was difficult to find a town without its own proud newspaper.

        All these small enterprises and career options and jobs at every skill level were replaced with what?

        Sweet fuck all beyond fear, anger, drugs and debt.

        Rural America is a wasteland filled with scared, angry, bitter people because WE, as a country, made it that way.

        But they’re no different than the rest of us: give them a shot, decent jobs, decent education, futures to work for and they’re just like everyone else. That, and shut off the goddamn propaganda channels that have taken their righteous and well-earned anger and appropriated even THAT, turning it into emotional nooses for yet another set of rich men to control.

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          Hard to give them a decent education when they defund the school systems because ‘muh taxes’ and denigrate their teachers and everything else public Ed ('ceptin the “pride of the town”, the HS football team, because that one QB is gonna git scouted ‘cuz he’ s got a helluva arm)

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          They are the cause of their own downfall and reject any ideas that might help them. They deserve no pity. They’ve earned their place in the intellectual hierarchy. The smart ones all leave for cities with no plans to return.

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            They are the cause of their own downfall and reject any ideas that might help them. They deserve no pity. They’ve earned their place in the intellectual hierarchy. The smart ones all leave for cities with no plans to return.

            Guess that puts you in rural Bumfuck County, Nowhereland for life then, Clent, because even the most stupid among us know that crops don’t grow in cities, herds don’t graze in urban areas, but city folk still really like to eat.

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              I’m not sure what your point is. Being a farmer doesn’t make one worthy of worship. It also has no bearing on what I said. Most rural people are not farmers.

              At least you know you’re among the most stupid, so you’ve got that going for you.

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                I’m not sure what your point is. Being a farmer doesn’t make one worthy of worship. It also has no bearing on what I said. Most rural people are not farmers.

                My point, Clent, is that you have no idea how the world works, or where your food comes from, or even any idea that many rural people (including farmers) are college educated. You have no idea what business sustains rural areas, or what it takes for rural people to get their basic human needs met. You wouldn’t last half a day on a real farm, or anywhere other than your mom’s basement.

                Your concern trolling fails to account for the humanity of others, and your all-or-nothing language demonstrates the maturity level of an angry preteen. This is all about you needing an outgroup to look down on and feel better than in comparison to yourself, and has nothing to do with the very real lives of the people you condemn as “stupid.” How old are you, twelve?

                Look at this, lol:

                They are the cause of their own downfall and reject any ideas that might help them. They deserve no pity. They’ve earned their place in the intellectual hierarchy. The smart ones all leave for cities with no plans to return.

                When you call others stupid, Clent, you’re looking in the mirror, because I’ve known many of lesser IQ that had more humanity in their little toes than you’ve ever had in your life. Go back to your video games, angry boy, and let the grownups talk.

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                The farmers I know, the ones that were able to actually keep their farms, generally aren’t voting for the dumbass who caused crops to rot in their fields.

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        You’ve got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know… morons.

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        Are you referencing when Trump said he liked dumb voters? He knew he could get them to vote against their interests, their family interests and anything that would improve their lives. But yeah. “Screw that group of people I think I am better than”

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          Accurately pointing out what they are. In no way implies they have a monopoly. Despite democrats being measurably better by nearly every metric. They are still largely problematic and often do little to actually serve their constituents.

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      To be fair he went out among them and convinced them of that.

      Maggie Haberman the journalist says that one of the things about Trump that is undeniably genius is his way of charming the people he wants to support him. That’s how he won, by connecting with these people. It is his one singular talent.

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      They simply deny everything you present to them. Facts do not matter. They are literally living in their own imagination and refuse to accept reality. It is time to reopen the mental institutions and throw them back in, along with the ACLU clowns who let them out to begin with.

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        It is time to reopen the mental institutions and throw them back in, along with the ACLU clowns who let them out to begin with.

        My gods y’all say some legitimately evil shit sometimes.

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            Defending against violent fascists is evil?

            You sound exactly like the rest of the violent fascists you deride as though they are any different from yourself, you tell us. As a reminder, what you said was:

            They simply deny everything you present to them. Facts do not matter. They are literally living in their own imagination and refuse to accept reality. It is time to reopen the mental institutions and throw them back in, along with the ACLU clowns who let them out to begin with.

            Tell me how that doesn’t sound like a “violent fascist” to you.

            Or better yet, don’t. I looked at your post history. Less than a month old, and the vast majority of your comments completely ignore the crimes of the right – you know, the fascists you claim to hate – while pointing out front and center even the tiniest faults of anyone trying to make things right these days.

            So tell it to someone else. Your posts sound exactly like the people trying to rile shit up from the right, and to the exact same end.

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              I cant help but notice that your path of pacifism and “incremental change” has led to the rapid and accelerating rise of fascism…so until you can come up with a solution that has actually worked historically as well as mine has, you have no business trying to ivory tower your "superiority complex.

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              By the way, wtf does “less than a month old” mean? How is that relevant? Exactly what gate are you keeping, and by whose authority? How old are you? Were you born in the 90s or after? Do you have any concept of a world before cable news was able to spew nonstop propaganda and the airwaves weren’t saturated with constant radical fascist garbage? I can assure you that there is no possible way that I could be their equal in any way whatsoever. You would probably have nothing to compare to to know that.

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        Reagan shutdown the mental institutions.

        Whatever hatred you have for the ACLU is based on your ignorance.