• Zink@pawb.social
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    8 months ago

    I DON’T want the fediverse to grow if that growth is full of extremists, hate groups, porn bots, etc.

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      8 months ago

      But the fediverse already has that lol. I’ve had arguments here with extremists many times.

      You won’t just magically cure it by stopping FB from federating. Putting your fingers in your ears and closing your eyes doesn’t make it go away.

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        8 months ago

        But we’re talking our current problem but instead expanded into a community 80 times the size of the fediverse. That’s a little more hate than we’ve got now, no?

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          So what do you want exactly? Do you want the fediverse to remain small and irrelevant forever? Or do you want it to grow and become the dominant space with more bad actors but more useful actors as well?

          Because you can’t have both, and you will always have more extremists and shitty views with larger groups. I for one think the fediverse is a better implementation of the social tech for pack of a better word, and would prefer its implementation over the closed wall implementation of non fediverse applications.

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          8 months ago

          You’ll have both though in the fediverse… So it’s pretty irrelevant. Just because you don’t see them doesn’t mean they don’t exist.

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            Outside of the odd troll here and there, fascism isn’t a huge problem (at least on lemmy). Exploding heads died in like a week and you haven’t really seen any popular resurgence of far right politics here since. Can’t speak for the rest of the fediverse but lemmy seems to have carved out a semi-comfy niche for itself

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              I haven’t seen far rights here myself, but it’s a self selecting bias.

              I’ve definitely come across more far lefts here than any other platform I’ve used which are equally as bad as far right imo.

              I’m always concerned if there is only one strong group representation like that though. I’d rather have no extremists obviously, but if we have one side at least allow the other, otherwise that sort of crap starts seeping elsewhere.

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      8 months ago

      Lemmy already is full of extremists and hate groups. Perhaps you mean you don’t want hate groups you don’t agree with?

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        Even if this is somehow true (no clue who you federated with, man), we’re talking a community abt 80 times the size of the fediverse whose owner does not care and will not do anything other than dump its worst upon us.

        Even if they aren’t planning EEE, they might just be trying to rid of the fediverse by filling it with junk.

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          There’s not much one can really do about that. You can block their instance or join one that does it for you but that still doesn’t stop them from joining the fediverse or seeing the content here. Being an open platform means that it’s also open for the actors you don’t like.

          With hate groups and extremists I was refering to the anti-right-wing, anti-capitalist, pro-socialism/communism, pro-anarchy, anti-AI, anti-facebook/twitter/google etc. sentiment that’s alive an well all over our frontpages here.

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            8 months ago

            anti-facebook/twitter/google

            Not extremists, just people who want their data to belong to them.