Adding to the mountain of evidence that Israel is engaged in a genocidal war on the Gaza Strip, Al Jazeera on Thursday aired footage of what the news outlet reported was an Israeli drone targeting four Palestinians in Khan Younis last month.

Those killed by the unmanned aerial vehicle in the rubble of the southern Gaza city appear to be unarmed teenagers or young men. According to a translation of the coverage, they were not identified in the reporting.

Tariq Kenney-Shawa, Al-Shabaka’s U.S. policy fellow, said: “This is among the worst footage I’ve seen. Not only were these boys clearly unarmed and present no threat whatsoever, but they were struck multiple times even after stumbling/crawling away. There is no way they could have been considered combatants. This is unreal.”

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        Hi, resident American combat vet here. This is egregious by any standard but a genocidal regime. It’s a pretty clear rule, if they aren’t armed or uniformed, you don’t shoot them.

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          If it were like that, it wouldn’t be as bad. But internet is full of videos proving otherwise, USA soldiers included.

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            Oh? There are videos of US soldiers shooting civilians just walking around without guns and in civilian clothes?

            Please send them to the Pentagon and NYT. There’s some people who would be very interested in them.

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              There are. See “collateral murder” or the guy we literally prosecuted for this which Trump pardoned. We also kicked down a lot of doors and dropped a lot of missiles on slim intelligence knowing we were killing hundreds of thousands of innocents in aggregate. None of this info is secret. We kidnapped people in Iraq and tortured them to give up names of their confederates and kicked down doors and murdered people based on this intelligence. See the Salem witch trials for why this method of intelligence gathering isn’t worth shit.

              At one point we dropped missiles on people purely based correlating data about sim card usage to speculate on who was associating with terrorists in a program we now know is mathematically impossible to have been accurate.

              Not only do we have hundreds of thousands of civilian deaths on our hands directly there is all the indirect harm we are responsible for by supporting bad actors.

              None of this justifies anyone else’s bad acts. You just ought to be more aware.

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                The collateral murder video is sold without context. The Army’s report has pictures of the RPGs on the ground.

                Trump had to pardon that guy because the military was going to put him in prison.

                None of this is a culture so reckless we’re just bombing random civilians walking down the road. Even the torture had to be kept secret from everyone else and resulted in court martials until it was just completely removed from the normal military.

                We’ve certainly had our problems but at the end of the day the difference is we at least try to have accountability. We keep fighting against war criminals and forcing them to find other ways to work.

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                  What kind of accountability do we have where even the few people punished for the direct crimes are let off

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                    We absolutely put war criminals in prison before Trump, and we will again. One high profile shit stain doesn’t invalidate over a decade of prosecuting war crimes.

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                And the US Army released the investigation done that day. There were RPGs on the ground there. There was also a pattern of attacks going on with that unit and kneeling around the wall isn’t how any reporter I ever met overseas took a photo. Hell half the time they waved at us to make sure we knew they were there.

                It sucks that the Reuters guys embedded with anti coalition forces, but it’s a risk just like embedding with us was.

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                  So now you trust US army for analyzing their own footage, but not IDFs analysis of their own.

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                    The IDF hasn’t earned it.

                    They blew up a group of reporters standing in the open, clearly marked, with nothing else around them.

                    They refuse to let Gazans evacuate the combat area through their lines.

                    There are multiple cases of them shooting unarmed civilians. Including their own hostages.

                    And they refuse to either let aid agencies do their job or to provide that aid themselves, fomenting a famine.

                    There has been zero accountability for any of the war crimes above.

                    Also, the US Army didn’t just release a puff piece statement. They declassified their on the ground investigation that was done as a routine matter right after the engagement. When I say pictures of the RPGs, I don’t mean video stills to argue over. I mean actual pictures taken by soldiers.

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        You’re a disgrace. A perfect fit in Israel, I bet you’d be buddies with fuckhisfaceyahoo or you wish you were.

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          So I am despicable for thinking war is disgusting. Thanks I suppose. Goes to show how all these Hamas supporters think.

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            People are replying to you because you are trying to downplay genocide. You also just called people getting mad at children dying as Hamas supporters. You are being obtuse.

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                It’s something we will never know. I did hear Israel has a division of people meant to astroturf reddit and other sites (which is supposed to be against reddit’s terms of services). Always be careful when dealing with internet strangers.

                Interestingly, someone who defended Israel tried to shift some of the blame to the Romans last week (yes, I do get it was sarcasm but now all I hear in my head is: “The Romans, also are Hamas.”)

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        The other way would be that they weren’t genocidal and maybe the problem wouldn’t have happened in the first place. Israel and Hamas are both despicable groups but there’s a clear instigator in Israel.