cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/16660104
Consider supporting Lemmy development or donating to your local server if you have the means. Peace!
I’m assuming 1172 is a count of donations to official mainstream servers. I have definitely contributed to my local server.
I think it’s only donations to the development team. Summing up the donors across Liberapay, Open Collective and Patreon gives close to the number in the title.
I am a Patreon supporter of the developers. It’s that the best way to support the project?
The Lemmy project - yes. You want to check if your home instance is sustainably funded too. I think lemmy.world for example is well funded. So is lemmy.ca - my home instance.
I know for a fact that DB Zer0 could use some love, and their admin has created a lot of extra tools that have helped the Fediverse manage abusive instances. If your instance is well funded, but you would still like to donate somewhere to show your support, I highly suggest you check them out.
Their donation links are in their sidebar.
I believe they prefer Libera pay over the other options last I had checked
It’s quite nice running it myself
Ugh! Can’t they just monetize the sale of our personal data and push nauseating ads every other post… like any other respectable post aggregation platform?
I think it’s a symptom of Lemmy’s core premise - where do I direct funds as the “common” user (read as less technically sophisticated)? To access and engage with Lemmy I…
- use an app…
- that channels a specific server…
- contained within are individual mods that maintain communities and curate content…
- and all of that lives within the larger “world” of Lemmy as an idea
There are many hands in that chain. Your dedicated users can handle negotiating that decision maybe, but the “common” user cannot - and this post is trying to discuss Lemmy at scale, so you’re talking about that “common” user.
Again, it’s counter to the founding spirit of Lemmy, but we’re missing a centralized path to supporting all of the distributed hands doing work on this idea. Not an easy problem to solve, but one that should be acknowledged.
The Lemmy devs are a bunch of tankie weirdos, so I’m definitely not going to give money to them.
Yeah they have made it clear they don’t want me around, on top of that. Donate to instances, not the devs.
Thanks. I was about to post that I haven’t yet decided whether to donate to my instance or the developers. I might just go with your opinion
Edit: although after reading, I’m not entirely sure. Part of supporting freedom to discuss is also supporting freedom to discuss things you disagree with or even things that are genuinely hateful. I do tend to end up more on the free speech side than the cancel side. The posted thread from archive at least the complainant moved on: we need to be able to vote with our feet like that
Lemmy.ml is the devs instance, and they have a habit of banning anyone who even slightly differs from their opinions. Basically, if you’re not a tankie like them, they will likely ban you.
They’re not interested in free discussions.
Slight correction: Lemmy.ml is their reach-out and diplomacy instance. Their actual instance is lemmygrad.
I guess their diplomacy with me was to follow me around and downvote everything I posted until I just abandoned my original account.
Exactly they only harassed you instead of sending you straight to permaban gulag. Took me all of four or five days to get banned from lemmygrad and that’s without even posting in their communities.
Trust me, the Lemmy devs do not support freedom of discussion.
You are confusing freedom of discussion to using an specific instance with specific rules. Lemmy is clear proof of what you say is not true, and you are incorrect in your deductions of what/why and who.
I’ll hang into my cash and hope for a fork by some non-tankie devs.
I just want Reddit back, it was much better. But it’s dead.
Its been dead ever since normies found it and took it over. Around when /r/wtf turned into into a G rated Disney movie to appease advertisers or soccer moms, etc.
I know, it’s such a shame.
I’d bet my life savings they’re already funded by the CCP/Kremlin.
… Can I have your reasoning? Just because they are communists doesn’t mean they are foreign agents, all it means is that they are authoritarians. Besides,idue to lemmy’s federated nature the governments would be better off infiltrating or straight up buying larger social media companies
A lot of them aren’t actually communists, that’s a facade. I have no problem with most communists, it’s a wonderful theory and I get along much better with them than actual capitalists. In fact, I suspect a lot of them aren’t even people, they’re LLMs.
Lemmy.ml is a mouthpiece for the CCP. They aggressively spread CCP talking points. I abandoned an old account because they followed me around and downvoted everything I posted. This was right after the reddit exodus so I was posting positive, funny memes to help Lemmy grow. They’re very quick to delete and ban people who disrupt their echo chamber, and in my experience they almost never argue in good faith. A lot of them seem like bots, if you talk to them you’ll get weird, non sequitur responses.
Lemmy is a easy target for propaganda, there’s very little oversight.
not every idiot on the internet is funded by the ccp
Of course, but when someone is involved in leadership of a community that constantly spreads CCP propaganda and organizes to maliciously downvote people who push back against it, it’s quacking like a duck.
I’ve subscribed to patreon in the beginning, and one of the perks was supposedly access to a private group with the devs on discord or matrix, forgot which one. After 3 months and a few questions on how and where to gain access that went completely ignored, I stopped. Not because of the money; but because empty promises don’t sit well with me.
Edit: They still list “access to the development chatroom” as a perk, now even in the $1 tier. Used to be only from $5.
I had no idea it accepted donations, if not for this post I would have no idea where to do it. And still not sure how it works and where the money is for exactly. Is it like sponsoring servers for 1 particular instance?
The links in this post are for funding the two developers who work full time on Lemmy, the software.
The instances are sponsored separately via their own contribution links. E.g. look at the sidebar on lemmy.world and you’re probably gonna find them.
For the system to work we need to fund both the software development and the instances. Currently the software development funding is further behind as it still doesn’t cover two modest salaries. On the other hand I think lemmy.world is sustainably funded. Someone correct me if I’m wrong.
That’s useful thx for the intro.
I think it’s enough for the big picture, and it enables me to make several follow up questions such as
I had no idea this was in the hands of 2 people. Do they really make a living primarily on crowd sourced funds? Exciting and scary for the future of software in general!
There’s a bit more detail here. I think I saw something about NLnet funding getting renewed recently. There are other open source contributors too, but these two are the main Lemmy team.
I’m a monthly donor :)
Seeing your comment I was like, oh I know this guy. And then I remembered you are the one building the lemmy frontend I use. Thank you :)
Me too! It feels great, honestly. Highly recommend.
I’m poor af alright?
53k monthly active users is way less than I expected. But makes sense with how slow things are here.
Need more bots
Said no one ever.
How would bots help? No one wants to interact with a non human
Using this as my opportunity to brag that I have been a donor since the Reddit exodus! Hopefully I am donating to the right place:
The official Liberapay link now points to https://liberapay.com/Lemmy/.
yeah that’s the main dev of lemmy, but there’s a separate lemmy liberapay too now (both are ok probably)
Aren’t they a tankie
Have a look at their profiles and decide for yourself.
I know people like to shit on the Reddit gold concept. But I still think it makes sense and is one of the least obtrusive ways to raise funds sustainably.
And it was fun to let people know how much you appreciated their comment ot post.
That wouldn’t really work in federation, unless the reddit gold mechanic is tied to that specific instance.
I give $1 a month on patreon, hopefully that’s enough cause I’m broke AF.
If you’re broke, don’t give. I think there’s enough of us who can afford a few bucks a month and we should get more people to do it.
It’s a dollar more per month than most of us, including myself, will ever give.
We like free stuff?
I would if I had money :(
poor losers like us are the ones likely to spend our time in places like this.
and poor losers like us dont have the money to donate.
I would bet that at least 90% of Lemmy could afford a recurring donation of $1 to $3 per month. If 90% of 50,000 users donated $1 per month, they could bring in $45,000 per year. Currently, the 1172 donators are donating even more than that, which pays for 1 full time developer. If we picked up the slack, they could afford two, effectively doubling the dedicated work output.
It’s that simple. Either we band together and keep this system afloat, or we give our data to corporations so they can sell it and pay the bills that way. There isn’t really a third option.
Edit: I can’t believe this has been up this long and nobody has corrected my awful math. It isn’t $45,000 per year, it’s 45,000 users donating a combined total of $540,000 per year. Basically, 90% of us donating $1 per month could take this rocket ship straight to the moon.
Jimmy Wales over here.
