• 𝕽𝖚𝖆𝖎𝖉𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍@midwest.social
      1172·
      7 months ago

      Arch is only the larval stage. When a Linuxite consumes enough CLI, they metamorphose into one of two adult forms: a Void user, or a NixOS user. As these two adult forms are incompatible, this is a rare case of species divergence within a life cycle. Even more oddly, like the axolotl, many Arch users never leave the larval stage, and continue living comfortably in their ecological niche.

        • Prunebutt@slrpnk.net
          10·
          7 months ago

          Yeah, that comment leaves out the “I learned a lot from Arch, but don’t have the time to manage evertything anymore” crowd, which goes Ubuntu -> Arch -> Debian/Mint/Fedora

          • 𝕽𝖚𝖆𝖎𝖉𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍@midwest.social
            4·
            7 months ago

            I discovered that EndeavourOS satisfied that for me, without me having to give up Arch. And snapper+btrfs-grub has eliminated any interest in messing about with the new line of immutable systems. The only tempting distro I might spend time in is Chimera Linux (link, b/c of an unfortunate naming conflict) which (a little hilariously) is an attempt to make a Linux distro that’s purely Gnu-free. Chimera also runs dinit instead of systemd, and that’s interesting.

            Anyway, there are a couple of options that let a user stay in Arch but make things less… fussy.

            • Prunebutt@slrpnk.net
              2·
              7 months ago

              I gunked up my system with too much AUR, even with endeavourOS. NixOS might be a bit more suitable for my ADHD brain.

      • Dr. Moose@lemmy.worldEnglish
        421·
        7 months ago

        As someone who switched to nixos - eh. So much hacking to make dev stuff work really kills the magic that nixos is supposed to be :|

        • steersman2484@sh.itjust.works
          15·
          7 months ago

          Yeah, it is a lot of initial work, but once you got your shell.nix or flake.nix in place it is really nice, to not have to deal with different dependencies and versions in different projects.

          But you can also archive the same on any distro with the nix package manager.

      • TheOakTree@lemm.ee
        4·
        7 months ago

        I waited for this comment to be relevant for the entirety of the episode. As I closed it, I heard the word “inflation” and I had to bring the video back up to finally understand what you meant by this lmao

      • yeehaw@lemmy.ca
        4·
        7 months ago

        Well it’s a good thing this person mentioned it. I have never heard of whatever game changers is. I would have never heard it otherwise.

  • Zink@programming.dev
    401·
    7 months ago

    I use mint, btw.

    (…Not really but it fits the joke the best. I have used it and it’s an excellent distro whether you are a beginner or just want something stable and full featured. )

    • grrgyle@slrpnk.net
      271·
      7 months ago

      Mint is such a pragmatic distro. Honestly I admire people who are just happy with their Mint and don’t feel the need to distro hop to ever more esoteric package ecosystems just to feel alive

    • beirdobaggins@lemmy.world
      7·
      7 months ago

      I use Debian everywhere but if I need a Live Linux environment to recover files, clone a drive, wipe a drive, or really anything else I use ventoy and a Linux mint iso.

      • monsterpiece42@reddthat.com
        5·
        7 months ago

        I work in a PC repair shop (mostly Windows stuff) and I do the same with Ventoy and Mint. I especially like it for gParted but have a variety of things I use on it.

  • sayitghoul@lemmy.world
    261·
    7 months ago

    I don’t see what the problem is with Arch Linux and why it gets so much flak. I am not a Linux expert by any measure, but I use EndeavourOS and find it really use to use (don’t ask me to install from scratch). Its extremely stable and I like the fact that it gets updated constantly.

    The only other distro I really liked is MX Linux. My main gripe was that I don’t want to reinstall every so many years. I want to set up an OS and just use it without worrying about it being a temporary thing. But maybe I’ll change my mind in the future.

    I’m not for or against any distro really, maybe except Ubuntu and its bloat. I just use what best suits me, which is the whole point of all the different distros.

    • tubaruco@lemm.ee
      171·
      7 months ago

      i think its just people taking the “i use arch btw” meme too seriously and thinking its bad to show or even use it all

  • TrickDacy@lemmy.world
    24·
    7 months ago

    I’ve used arch on one machine now, am a total noob to it, and I really like it. I see what people are raving about and I see no reason to shit on it. I don’t really care if 6 years ago some people were annoying about it

        • 0x4E4F@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
          82·
          7 months ago

          Faster, more stable, no systemd, supports musl and architectures not usually supported by most distros. It’s probably the most stable rolling release distro out there.

            • Andromxda 🇺🇦🇵🇸🇹🇼@lemmy.dbzer0.com
              3·
              7 months ago

              Yes. From their website:

              C library diversity

              Void Linux supports both the musl and GNU libc implementations, patching incompatible software when necessary and working with upstream developers to improve the correctness and portability of their projects.

            • 0x4E4F@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
              2·
              7 months ago

              Yes, there are basically 2 builds for every architecture. One is glibc, the other is musl. I haven’t used the musl builds that much, just toyed with them a few times (mainly because of lack of software), but if you only use open source software that doesn’t specifically depend on the GNU toolchain, yes, you can daily drive it, no doubt there. And yes, it is faster than the glibc builds.

                • 0x4E4F@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
                  2·
                  7 months ago

                  The syntax is a bit different, but everything else, more or less the same. In fact, if you just wanna repackage a deb or an rpm, it’s even easier than in Arch, xbps-src can handle deb and rpm automatically, it detects dependencies and does repackaging on it’s own. You basically just have to feed it the deb/rpm file in a one liner, that’s it.

                  I should probably give an example. Here is the template file (they’re called templates in Void) for Viber. You basically just feed it the deb, do a vcopy (copy operation specific to xbps-src) and that’s it, everything else regarding the repackaging is done automatically by xbps-src.

          • TrickDacy@lemmy.world
            1·
            7 months ago

            Interesting. I will have to try it some time. I just know on my raspberry pi 5, out of the few OSes I could get to run on it, Arch was the fastest and smoothest running, and gets updates all the time. All this, even though rpi5 is not even officially supported yet!

            • 0x4E4F@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
              2·
              7 months ago

              No, just bootup and general responsivness of the system. Software is still compiled by the ssme compilers used in other distros. Everything is not magically faster.

              Though on the musl build, yeah, it is faster. Trouble is, you can’t run glibc software on it. Through chroot, yeah, but natively, no.

      • TrickDacy@lemmy.world
        5·
        7 months ago

        Basically just the fact that it’s very lightweight, I was able to install it on an rpi5 (not officially supported), install only what I needed, and was able to resolve all the issues I had for my niche use-case.

        There is a quite noticeable difference in how snappy it feels versus the official rpi OS. Arch runs way zippier on it. Those devices are a little limited hardware-wise so it makes a big difference in what it feels like to use that system.

        I also like knowing that the updates flowing in so quickly, I get the latest fixes and new features before I would on any of the other distros I’ve used. I have always been a little scared of rolling releases but over the last couple months I haven’t seen any breakages yet so fingers crossed! A lot of people have tried to tell me rolling release can be solid, but I was skeptical.

        • bort@sopuli.xyz
          2·
          7 months ago

          snappy it feels versus the official rpi OS

          I blame the desktop manager. Once I ditched the default von on the pi, and replaced it with standard gnome, the pi became almost as snappy as my regular notebook.

          in general: standard debian should be exactly as light-weight as arch.

    • Ann Archy@lemmy.world
      2·
      7 months ago

      It’s a bit tounge in cheek, nobody actually got mad at the arch namedropping. More like “I’m a platinum level player in LoL”. Lol.

  • MyNamesNotRobert@lemmynsfw.com
    16·
    7 months ago

    I couldn’t figure out how to make the wifi on my Debian machine reliable so I replaced the default wifi manager front-end and backend with iwctl, the same thing Arch uses by default. It seems to be working but now I have an unholy abomination of Debian spliced with Arch DNA.