Britain turned down the offer to remain a member of the cultural exchange program after Brexit.

The U.K. decided to leave the EU’s Erasmus+ student exchange scheme because Brits’ poor foreign language skills made membership too expensive to justify, a senior British official has revealed.

Lower take-up of the scheme by British students compared to other nationalities — put down to a weak aptitude for language learning — meant London expected to pay in nearly €300 million more a year than it received back, Nick Leake, a veteran senior diplomat at the U.K. Mission said this week.

It comes as youth organizations on both sides of the channel launch a renewed push for the U.K. to rejoin the scheme — and as an EU advisory body urges the Commission to get negotiations going.

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    So if I am reading this correctly, the problem is that UK students are not interested in going abroad (weak foreign language skills) and many Continental European students want to come to the UK (as almost everyone is learning English).

    This means the UK has to pay more money than it receives.

    But with this money, they would be ‘buying’ the chance to hold the interest of highly educated young people, who might love the British way of life and come back to work in the UK…

    Sounds like just another step into economical and cultural irrelevancy.

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      Jup, Brexit is full of these we pay more money than we receive kind of things. Like duh, you receive a whole lot more than just money. But somehow everything needs to be a monetary gain?

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        I went grocery shopping the other day but I ended up paying more money than I received so I guess I’ll just starve because it’s cheaper.

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        School I went to cost more than the school I did “study abroad” at. I was paying for someone else to go to my school while I was gone. Was study abroad great? Yes. I hope that other person had a good time too.

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    • “we suck at foreign languages, it’s terrible!”
    • ”yes we should do something about it. Let’s minimize our exposure to foreign languages!”
    • profit?!
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    Can somebody explain how poor language skills relate to the UK paying more? The article just makes it seem obviously correlated

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      Erasmus = student exchange between universities.

      If you end up hosting other people’s students but nobody else hosts yours, then you end up spending more on education.

      According to the article UK students are less likely to go overseas because they can’t speak any of the languages.

      It’s a bit like if you kept having your kids’ friends over to dinner but your own kids were too picky to ever eat dinner at their friends’ houses.

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      The article also alleges a “poor aptitude” for language learning, without making any attempt to stand up such a staggering claim, which places the blame on students for being thick.

      Terrible piece of writing

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      If you go to a bar and you don’t understand what the bartender is saying, you don’t understand how much money they want, so you just hand them your wallet and they take as much as they want. It’s like that probably. Yes.

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      I’d bet because it requires adults with better language skills.

      We had a few exchange students when I was growing up and if the student was considered “mostly fluent” they’d come alone and have a group they’d meet with.

      Students who were barely fluent often time had an adult with them.

      I’d gather the exchange groups with less fluency require more adults, even if they’re not paid they have transport costs and whatnot.

      That said, you’re totally right. It’s wild the article just goes “and of course it’s more money” as if it’s common knowledge why.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    BRUSSELS — The U.K. decided to leave the EU’s Erasmus+ student exchange scheme because Brits’ poor foreign language skills made membership too expensive to justify, a senior British official has revealed.

    Lower take-up of the scheme by British students compared to other nationalities — put down to a weak aptitude for language learning — meant London expected to pay in nearly €300 million more a year than it received back, Nick Leake, a veteran senior diplomat at the U.K. Mission said this week.

    Leake was representing the British government at a meeting of the European Economic and Social Committee (EESC), an EU advisory body drawn from civil society organizations across the bloc.

    At the session of the body’s external relations section on Wednesday, delegates approved a recommendation calling for the European Commission to “strengthen negotiations with the U.K. government for the full reintegration of the U.K. into Erasmus+.”

    María Rodríguez Alcázar, president of the European Youth Forum, said: “We trust that all the recommendations in the EESC’s opinion, including the U.K.'s reassociation to Erasmus+, will be discussed and implemented by decision makers from both sides of the channel.”

    Jan Hendrik Dopheide, a senior EU official working on relations with the U.K., told the same meeting that the Commission was talking to member states about how to proceed on the issue of youth mobility in general.


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