A top Hamas political official told The Associated Press the Islamic militant group is willing to agree to a truce of five years or more with Israel and that it would lay down its weapons and convert into a political party if an independent Palestinian state is established along pre-1967 borders.

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    2 months ago

    What’s the difference between terrorists and the resistance to an occupation?

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      I suspect you are not asking in good faith, but I’m answering anyway: Methods and goals. Hamas methods are clear: Legitimate resistance doesn’t deliberately and as a core policy murder, abduct and rape civilians. Hamas are no different from IS in this regard, which nobody calls resistance or freedom fighters.

      Goals: Hamas actual and openly stated goal is the creation of a global Islamic caliphate and the murder and/or enslavement of all “nonbelievers”, not the liberation of the Palestinian people.

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      Certainly not the views of some western kid who only cares after 7 decades because the internet told him to be outraged

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      The distinction comes from the ends they seek and the means they go about achieving those ends.

      Oh Allah, destroy the Jews and their supporters. Oh Allah, destroy the Americans and their supporters. Oh Allah, count them one by one, and kill them all, without leaving a single one.”

      -prayer of Sheik Ahmad Bahr

      I could easily get behind a platform that acknowledges that 7 million Jews now live in Israel and forcing them out (or even worse, killing them) would be a humanitarian catastrophe, but instead Hamas’ position is just as unyielding and genocidal as what Bibi’s admin has been waging upon the people of Gaza and the West Bank. They’re only now talking about laying down their arms because it benefits their attempts to paint themselves as the reasonable party in this conflict which I find to be a farce. More conflict and death benefits both Likud and Hamas.

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        Are you going to spam the same quote from some dude that’s already dead all over the thread? The fact you can’t find anything more recent than is astounding. Let’s do it the other way around:

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          I posted it twice, somehow that qualifies as spam, fucking lol. Fuck that lady and the other genocidal maniacs at the wheel in Israel.

          ”The cleansing of Palestine of the filth of the Jews, and their uprooting from it, Allah willing”

          “the establishment of the Caliphate, after the nation has been healed of its cancer – the Jews – Allah willing.”

          -Fathi Hamad, 2018

          That recent enough for you? Fathi is still kicking as well. It’s quite easy to find more.

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            Yeah thats indeed a bad statement. Looks like Hamas made him walk it back and he apologized.

            Hamas official walks back call to Palestinian Diaspora to kill ‘Jews everywhere’

            A senior Hamas official on Monday attempted to walk back his call for members of the Palestinian diaspora to kill Jews around the world, as the terrorist group distanced itself from his remarks.

            He added: “Our resistance to this usurping entity will continue in all of its forms whether that is armed or popular peaceful struggle.”

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              It is a pretty pathetic indictment of Israeli leadership when Hamas has the more responsible rhetoric. I hope it’s not just them yelling at him for saying the quiet part out loud. My hope is Hamas can follow a similar trajectory as the IRA/Sinn Fein did in Northern Ireland, but I unfortunately don’t see that happening with Likud on the other side of negotiations

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              “Whoopsie! So sorry I called for a global genocide there. Never meant a word of it”

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                Oppressed people tend to conflate the attributes of their oppressors and generalize everyone with those attributes.

                Slaves often started to hate every white person instead of just slave owners.

                As israel constantly screams they represent all Jews, and commit all their crimes in the name of Judaism, some Palestinians (mistakenly) conflate the two.

                Luckily Hamas as an organization does not and clearly separates the two. Hamas has also never murdered a Jew outside of israel. Because they do not target Jews. They target the people that colonize their land.

                Unlike israel where half the cabinet screams they want to murder every Arab and Ethnically Cleanse their land.