Even from people that never lived in a communist state

edit: im 17 and i hate communism

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      the hardest test for any American

      define communism

      define propaganda

      use both in a sentence that applies to the agreed definitions

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        How would you define communism? I hear so many different definitions and find it hard to differentiate which one is accurate.

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          I was kidding around, and part of the joke is how pointless the definition is:

          communism: that the assets held by a body are indivisible across the individuals of that body when the assets in question are required to engage in production.

          Thereby any definition of “body”, “asset” and “production” can be used to define specific types and scopes of a communist ideology.

          propaganda: a piece or collection of communications that has the primary purpose to persuade.

          communist propaganda: a communication to persuade the reader to share the means of production across a collective.

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      American says communism and means conservative democrat or Trump Republican, depending on who is saying it.

      AES barely even registers, except for the occasional “Why don’t you move to Vuvuzela!”

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        You’re proving their point. You say “outright” communists, as if socialism isn’t just a transition between capitalism and communism.

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          I’m saying it because places like Lemmygrad and Hexbear are outright Communist and they will take it as an insult if you call them socialist.

          I’m not talking about the shades of different economic preferences, I’m talking about the extreme cases. In the extreme cases, there are multiple outright Communist communities on Lemmy.

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            I don’t get why you’re being downvoted. There’s a great comment by Cowbee (I think) that explains why this is a thing.

            There are people who are explicitly self-proclaimed Communists on Lemmy.

            This isn’t some “Healthcare is communism!!!1” thing.

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              A lot of the users on those instances also has usernames or pronouns which includes “commie”

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              I think it is because some people think that socialism is a kind of communism, when that take wouldn’t be accepted by a lot of communists here.

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          It gets touted as a transition state between Capitalism and Communism, by Communists who want to get away from Capitalism, and Capitalists who fear anything that isn’t Capitalist.

          But it is a genuine economic philosophy on its own that blends the best parts of Communism and Capitalism in one. At least to my opinion.

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          Communists believe that socialism is a transitional state from capitalism to communism, but 1) communists aren’t the only socialists and 2) a lot of Americans think milquetoast social safety net capitalist reformers like Bernie Sanders are socialists despite them never calling for the abolition of private ownership of the means of production.