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    Tried a few of those once, only one worked and mfker installed itself in the next update. Uninstalling Windows was easy af tho.

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    This is the kind of dark pattern that trains Windows users trying to switch to Linux to do dumb things like blowing straight through a

    You are about to do something potentially harmful.
    To continue type in the phrase 'Yes, do as I say!'
    

    prompt.

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    I just went ahead and deleted anything that looked Edge-related from all the system directories. Sure, my computer won’t boot into Windows anymore, but all the more reason to use Linux!

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      That’s how you actually remove edge.
      step 1: download bootable linux usb image . . .

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    It is wild that people will say that using apt to install things is too hard, but then suggest a registry edit to remove Bing from seach. Windows just isn’t as casual user friendly as it pretends to.

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      Honestly, with Flatpak and immutable base systems this is a place Linux is really excelling now too. Being able to show a novice user a shared package manager with a search and a bunch of common apps and them actually install/remove them in a safe manner with a high likelihood they’ll work out of the box (since they come with all their deps in sync independent from distro) is kinda huge.

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        Don’t really need sandboxed software for that. Ubuntu comes with their own software store and even if you only select deb, you just klick on install and you’re done

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        It’s a pretty mixed bag honestly. Sure there are some apps that we get in a mammoth poorly made appimage we’d probably have to have run in wine before or some terrifying statically compiled program embedded in a run script and that’s probably a win.

        The trade-off is every developer being their own distro maintainer, 100s of gigs of duplicate dependencies, broken containers with missing libraries, leaky requirements on the underlying system, and everyone needs to be a security expert to understand all the options in flatseal to expose the right features.

        Also, instead of one distro source, I’ve got at least 3 and I’ve in the last week had to install programs from multiple sources trying to get a functioning version. This feels like the norm rather than an exception.

        Also this week had an app image broken by a requirement on a removed system library outside the app and a flatpak missing a key library forcing me to dig up an old .deb version. The later I lost like 6hrs on because clearly libusb was installed on the system but I didn’t realize I’d installed the flatpak and in wasn’t in the container. Such fun.

        So it’s not really all sunshine and rainbows yet.

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          Fwiw, this is not an endorsement of Windows. I strongly believe if most people spent half the time they spent fighting Windows learning Linux they’d never go back.

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      I’d even add that now 99% of the distro have a gui over the package manager. Have an android or iPhone? You already have experience in installing stuff in an easier way than windows

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    So I was going to go find the Download link for the Linux version of Edge to post as a joke, right?

    So I googled (actually duckduckgo’d) “microsoft edge” and clicked one of the first couple of links that looked like it was probably the right place to go.

    And was presented with this modal:

    A modal from the above-linked page with the Edge logo saying "Microsoft Edge is already installed on your device."

    I’m visiting that page from Firefox in Arch Linux on a Raspberry Pi 4.

    Admittedly I’m running a user agent switcher because otherwise I get the mobile version of a lot of sites, but it’s still funny to me. I like being able to say “the fuck it is.”

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    I got a free iMac recently and immediately tried to install some software on it and was told “we don’t recognize this so you can’t install it”. Like excuse me WTF?

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        I’m sure there are workarounds. That’s besides the point.

        If they had said “we don’t recommend you install this” that would be completely fine and understandable. But that’s not what happened. I wasn’t presented with any option to bypass it. I was just told no. I shouldn’t have to Google how to do that. It’s completely absurd.

        Fun fact: it also won’t let me turn off Bluetooth. How fucking batshit is that?

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          I so often can’t stand e.g. important privacy toggles being hidden deep in settings, dark patterns that obfuscate permitted but unprofitable behavior - so you’d think I’d be with you on this 100%.

          And yet…

          If they had said “we don’t recommend you install this”

          , grandma would hit OK without reading it.

          For every dollar someone has paid tech support to help them install a desired app from an unidentified developer, I’d bet ten dollars have been saved from others not being able to install some spyware. Maybe that murky little dialogue box is good enough for the lowest common denominators that it outweighs the annoyance for us nerds? (Our small cost being we’re required to Searx once for the solution to learn how to bypass it)

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            grandma would hit OK without reading it.

            Then grandma would be responsible.

            I don’t buy it. Because Apple has lied about this sort of thing time and time again. Giving us bullshit explanations about why they won’t let us control “our” devices. “Security”, over and over again they use this bullshit to explain away all kinds of self-serving shitfuckery. I’m certain it has far more to do with their 30% app store fees.

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    Actually that method in the picture no longer works, but there is a better, though still convoluted, method.

    Of course, have fun adding repos and installing better versions of browsers in Linux.

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      Better versions? The best versions are firefox from distro’s repo and librewolf from flathub for me.

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      That’s the thing, most desktop distros come with a web browser preinstalled, but:

      • It’s usually firefox or librewolf, which are objectively superior to edge in any scenario.
      • You can uninstall it right away with either a three word command or open a program with a big red “uninstall” button, no console needed.
      • Nothing breaks, the system literally doesn’t give a fuck if you even have a web browser at all.
      • If you want another browser then go for it! You can even use edge if you’re a psychopath. Your system wont judge you, but i might sorry-
      • It will never reinstall crap you uninstalled and set it the default on a random mandatory system update.
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      What web browser requires you to add a repo to install it on Linux

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    I don’t get it, you’re running a Microsoft operating system. Is running a Microsoft browser a bridge too far? Instead of breaking your OS just leave Edge in place and install your browser of choice. You’re not going to outsmart Mammon on their own operating system, especially if it’s Windows 11.

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      I bet people would be less enraged if the browser didn’t randomly open so often.

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        Oops I made a widdle fucky wucky and set myself back to default browser.

        Oopsies the castrated search bar that plies you with ads until you type the exact filename or program you were looking for accidentally put the website you download it from above the program installed on your machine, don’t worry I’ll open that in edge for you.

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        Its because they’re fucken addicted to dark patterns. I want to set firefox as the default. That means any file that edge opens I want Firefox to now open. Except, Microsoft doesn’t do that when you set a different browser as the default. I’d rather it change everything and then I have to change the PDF viewer manually, than have to change six or seven file types manually each time. Thus wouldn’t be an issue if I wasn’t working at my first corporate job, if my manager gave a shit to do anything, and if my company would stop changing everything and breaking my images every other week.

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      Ah I never tire of defenders of corporate shitfuckery.

      Whose computer is it? Mine or Microsoft’s? Did they pay me or did I pay them? Should I also not be concerned about the regular pop-ups begging me to use it?

      Did you ever stop and wonder why it is that MS so desperately wants you to use their browser?

      Fuck right the fuck off, please.

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        I’m not defending it. My point is that you aren’t going to outsmart Microsoft on their own operating system. You own a license, not the software. You can feel free to modify it to the extent they permit you, and if you want to hack your Windows OS then go ahead. You’ll either unintentionally break something or end up fighting against Microsoft when they undo your modifications on a future update.

        If you want freedom and autonomy on your own computer then get yourself some Linux. Microsoft isn’t interested in power users, and they are going to keep taking more and more control from you in every release. You are swimming against the tide telling me to fuck right off when I’m telling you there’s nothing upstream.

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          A bit crass, but the truth is quite harsh too. While I do agree with your point overall; I don’t think people are wrong to protest. We need consumers to bitch and whine about things rather than take corporate laying down.

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          My point is that you aren’t going to outsmart Microsoft on their own operating system.

          You did a terrible job of making that point.

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      How would removing a browser break an OS? Is Window’s really that fragile that it completely collapses from removing a single user-space application?

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    Nobody who has used linux ever makes memes like this. Nobody who has had enough experiences with windows does either.

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      I think of things that could be meme templated sometimes when I get annoyed by any hardware or software or both, but I never feel motivated to actually make it. Actually I’ve never made any meme images at all.