It’s a nightmare scenario for Microsoft. The headlining feature of its new Copilot+ PC initiative, which is supposed to drive millions of PC sales over the next couple of years, is under significant fire for being what many say is a major breach of privacy and security on Windows. That feature in question is Windows Recall, a new AI tool designed to remember everything you do on Windows. The feature that we never asked and never wanted it.

Microsoft, has done a lot to degrade the Windows user experience over the last few years. Everything from obtrusive advertisements to full-screen popups, ignoring app defaults, forcing a Microsoft Account, and more have eroded the trust relationship between Windows users and Microsoft.

It’s no surprise that users are already assuming that Microsoft will eventually end up collecting that data and using it to shape advertisements for you. That really would be a huge invasion of privacy, and people fully expect Microsoft to do it, and it’s those bad Windows practices that have led people to this conclusion.

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    As expected, there is no evidence that this is “the straw that broke the camel’s back”. Don’t waste your time reading this article.

    MS has been doing this kind of shit for decades and their market share has never changed significantly.

    Was it stupid? Yeah. Are people upset? Sure. Is anyone going to do anything about it? No, because the vast majority don’t care or they would have stopped using it a long time ago.

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      I’m using windows 11 and after hearing about recall and all the other shit they’ve done, I’ve finally decided to make the jump to Linux

      So for atleast me, this was the final straw

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        I had dabbled in gaming on Linux but never made the jump. After reading about recall I spent a week making my choice on OS of choice ( and then I switched a week after :') ).

        I’m fully on Linux now. Even if they fully back down from windows recall I dont need an OS that’s trying to sell me something based on whatever I do in it.

        It was my final straw as well.

        Edit: and it hasn’t really been bad either. The shader compilation after every gfx driver update is a bit annoying. That’s about it.

        I’ll probably run into something at one point. Like some anti cheat that doesn’t work and is preventing me from playing the game.

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          Edit: and it hasn’t really been bad either. The shader compilation after every gfx driver update is a bit annoying. That’s about it.

          If it’s shader compilation under Steam, turn it off in settings. With advancements in graphics drivers and Proton, it really isn’t needed anymore.

          I disabled it about 12 months ago and haven’t noticed any difference in performance whatsoever.

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            A couple people recommended Fedora spins but I’d recommend just sticking with the big distros (that have up-to-date graphics drivers readily available - so not Debian.) A lot of the gaming-focused distros are only saving you a few terminal commands and increase your risk of running into issues; they’re good, but they may not be as 100% stable as you’ll find in major long-running distros like Fedora or Mint.

            I have settled on Fedora with KDE Plasma. Here’s basically everything I copy pasted for gaming:

            # install steam, discord, nvidia drivers
            sudo dnf install https://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-$(rpm -E %fedora).noarch.rpm https://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/rpmfusion-nonfree-release-$(rpm -E %fedora).noarch.rpm -y
            sudo dnf config-manager --enable fedora-cisco-openh264 -y
            sudo dnf update -y
            sudo dnf install steam discord akmod-nvidia xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-cuda
            
            # install bluetooth Xbox driver
            sudo dnf install git dkms
            cd /tmp
            git clone https://github.com/atar-axis/xpadneo.git && cd xpadneo
            sudo ./install.sh
            

            I also had to enable Legacy X11 App Support through the settings gui so that Discord could receive push to talk presses without having focus.

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            I ended up with nobara ( KDE ). Though if i had to reinstall I might give bazzite a go.

            No hate for nobara though. It’s working fine gaming wise. Had a gfx issue once after an update, which was resolved by just running the nobara system updater.

            I have some issues getting devpods to work. But that is completely unrelated to gaming :D

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          Which distro did you end up on? I’ve been looking into them and after using steamos on my deck, I think I will go with Bazzite kde

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            I ended up with nobara. I might give bazzite a go at one point, but more out of interest. Nobara is treating me just fine!

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        Some, maybe 1-2% of Windows users keep yelling “I’ma switch to Linux”. They then try it for a few days and give up.

        You didn’t matter in the first place, but also you will most likely not make a successful transition anyways.

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        I get that. And, playing the devil’s advocate here…what happens in a couple of years when the time comes to purchase a new Laptop/desktop that comes pre-installed with Windows? Will your current ire and consternation hold up until then, meaning you’ll take the effort…long after this current “trust crisis” is over…to install Linux once again. Or, with this current scandal a faint memory from a few years back, will you just kind of shrug and say “Hey…it’s there, I might as well just go with it.”

        I mean no offense, and I by know means want to presume your answer here. But I’d be willing to bet 90% of the people who, in a pique of ire, replace their current windows with a linux distro, won’t bother to do the same when they purchase a new laptop down the road.

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          But I’d be willing to bet 90% of the people who, in a pique of ire, replace their current windows with a linux distro, won’t bother to do the same when they purchase a new laptop down the road.

          Linux is superior to Windows. Not only do I get more done and faster, I enjoy the process much more. For example, you know AHK? That useful application on Windows where you can make macros?

          Well, on base Fedora you have an AHK built right into the system without any modification and you can use shell scripts- aka a real language instead of the wonky AHK language.

          That’s one example. I can list them off rapid fire but I’d just write a wall of text unnecessarily.

          My point is just that Linux is better. I don’t use Linux because it’s cool or interesting or I’m a hobbyist or anything like that. I use it because it’s the better option for the things I do on my computer.

          That may be different for you. If you are a graphic designer or a music producer that may be different. But I’m usually in a terminal and Unix is the superior terminal. Windows terminal is such a joke they literally had to port in the Linux terminal through WSL

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          Installing Linux is a pretty trivial process at this point. Not much additional work beyond what already comes with setting up a new laptop. Especially of you’ve already done it before.

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      I just read they decided to default it to off. They should remove it entirely imo, but with this move, it costs IT departments $0 and 0 hours of their time to worry about.

      I think business + government + education usage is more important for them than personal, and as long as this costs them nothing, I doubt it makes a dent in anyone’s plans. Could have been an apocalypse if defaulted to on though.

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        I just read they decided to default it to off.

        From what I’ve seen they will be asking yes or no upon setup with no default.

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          If it’s anything like some of the other features they’ve crammed in they will ask that question over and over and over and over again until you choose the answer they want.

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      the vast majority don’t care or they would have stopped using it a long time ago

      It’s a little disingenuous to claim people should’ve stopped using something that hasn’t come to market yet. I was looking for other options when they started trying to force me to upgrade to Windows 11, but this absolutely is the last straw that I won’t use Windows on my next computer.