• CriticalMiss@lemmy.world
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    19 days ago

    Nothing says “We’re confident in the software we’re selling” like willing to work for exposure in hopes that somebody shills $20 for a subscription.

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      19 days ago

      Exposure = They get to keep the data they get.

      Data = money

      They’ve found a way to make it work I’m sure.

    • whodatdair@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      19 days ago

      With the sheer amount of money that the rich are throwing at OpenAI via investment firms, they don’t need nor want to charge imo. The fact that they’re being built into Apple’s ecosystem and are getting name-dropped to people inside of iOS is kinda what their investors want.

      It’s the age old “walmart opens and operates at a loss for 2 years to force others out of business, then jacks the price” model.

      Investors want them to cement this as The AI company & brand so that once it gets giant and starts to be profitable just by being the biggest gorilla in the room, the shares they bought are worth more.

      So what I’m trying to say is that our version of capitalism is perfect and makes lots of sense and is in no way insane and degenerate.

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        19 days ago

        That might be their internal reasoning but Apple will very quickly move to have these capabilities in house. Apple has been working on machine learning for a while but they don’t collect data so they are unable to build these LLMs.

        For now it makes sense for Apple to leave the liability of basing these LLMs on copyrighted data. If OpenAI losses those court battles, they take the hit for services rendered to Apple. None of that liability transfers to Apple.

        Meanwhile, Apple is going about this the Apple way by encouraging developers to integrate their apps into new frameworks being added. This gives them access to user data directly from the source allowing them to build personalized models.

        These models will likely be far more useful to the day to day mundanity of life than the hallucinogenic encyclopedia that is ChatGPT.

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      19 days ago

      I don’t know with this one.

      OpenAI isn’t allowed to blindly scrape iPhone or iCloud user’s data. They can only learn from whatever data the user submits in a query. And Apple forces users to consent to every single query that is sent to OpenAI. And that query compute is expensive.

      Given that Apple built in a way for GPT pro licenses to be used, my guess is that selling the subscriptions is the real business angle.

      Open AI will get data from those queries, but since it’s a query, it requires significant compute. Paying for compute for the world’s largest smart phone manufacturer is going to hurt if they can’t monetize somehow.

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      19 days ago

      My hot take is that the new iMessage features will push adoption rates really high. People in my household want the beta for that reason alone, and I’m having to bat them away because this is a buggy DB1.

      A version is Siri that isn’t shit is also a big reason. But that is not coming until 18.1 or 2. So my money is on text effects and stupid emoji reactions being the initial upgrade driver.

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    19 days ago

    I wonder how this will end up working. I want to use chat gpt without an account and while logged into a VPN and to have unlimited requests… would be nice if this was the solution to this.

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    17 days ago

    100% correct.

    At the moment there are tons of Ai companies all trying to be The One that everybody will use.

    But Google has Gemini and it has Android. Android has 70% market share worldwide and is offering Gemini for free to every user. That’s MASSIVE exposure.

    For openai to get on Android the user has to install it as an app. It’s VERY difficult to get your average user to know what openai is and why they should use it, never mind getting them to install the app.

    So to be the default Ai on iPhone is a HUGE deal for openAi and gives them massive exposure over the competition.

    Google pays Apple billions to Apple to be the default search engine so openAi not having to pay anything is actually very surprising to me.

    I think the only reason Apple isn’t making them pay is because Apple plans to offer other Ai services in future.