• naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    4 months ago

    neither are the people claiming humans are, as a herd, fairly dumb and incredibly selfish

    wtf? by what standard?

    Humans frequently band together during disaster, humans care for their young and old, humans don’t typically engage in cannibalism of the weak, humans rarely fight to the death or even serious injury, we live in cities of millions with astonishingly low rates of violence etc etc

    where is this terrible selfish stupid behaviour? what standard are you comparing the species to? we’re more violent than orangutans but they’ve never set up water sanitation so I think we can call ourselves smart and we’re less violent than chimps or gorillas… are you comparing us to fictitious ideal beings or what?

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      4 months ago

      wtf? by what standard?

      if the climate change inaction (or worse, sabotage) did not convince you, I am certain the COVID behaviour should have

      Humans frequently band together during disaster

      If they are directly affected sure… otherwise people may throw some money (which is usually promptly embezzled) and move on

      humans care for their young and old

      Their own young, sure let’s say that is the common majority. Their own old? a lot more questionable. Other people’s LOL… can’t tell you how many people complain about their taxes feeding other people’s children. But this is not an argument against what I claimed… what I said was basically echoing what Tommy Lee Jones beautifully said in MIB, in a nutshell: a human (as an individual) can be AMAZING, but humans (as a herd) tend to default to he lowest common denominator and that sucks!

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkCwFkOZoOY

      humans don’t typically engage in cannibalism of the weak

      what do you think capitalism is?

      humans rarely fight to the death or even serious injury

      Ok, now you are joking… no matter how old you are, I know with 100% accuracy that you have never lived in a world where, somewhere, there was a military conflict and people were being slaughtered… I know because we have not had such a time since 1816 (and that may just have been an absence of records)