• RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world
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    13 days ago

    8 really ruined it. 7 had problems but I could forgive some of them because “Disney still trying to figure it out.”

    Then 8 happened. Closed off all story threads from 7 without any fanfare at all, and closed off all of its own potential threads within itself, leaving absolutely nothing for 9 to follow up on. Multiple character assassinations, and the entire Canto section could be deleted from the film and zero context would be lost.

    9 was never going to succeed. It couldn’t have. There was nothing for it to build on from 8.

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      12 days ago

      What story threads? There were no story threads. There was hopeful fans who wanted to create things out of thin air. That’s about it. There was more from 8 to lead off from than 7.

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        12 days ago

        8 gets a lot of hate along with the rest of the sequels, and I remember being pissed off of its scorched earth treatment of every single plot point from 7 after watching it in the movie theatre, but looking back… at least it tried to be original. The scenes are visually memorable, and its message that even nobody can rise up to be a hero, is miles better than… whatever the 9 did with Rey.

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      12 days ago

      Oh… soooooo say i’ve seen 8, but never got around to seeing 9… I should just chill and consider it done?

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        12 days ago

        I hadn’t seen 9 for the longest time and just read online how stupid it was. Then I watched it with that expectation and yes, totally confirmed. If anything you might want to watch it to see what a dumpster fire it is. But don’t prioritize it over other stuff you want to watch.

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          12 days ago

          Except 9 isn’t “so bad it’s good,” it’s just bad. I would not recommend anyone watch episodes 7-9 at all.

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      12 days ago

      7 put Luke hiding on an island while a war was going on and left 8 to take the flak for explaining why. There was no way to make 8 without pissing people off.

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          12 days ago

          Then I don’t understand. 8 developed Poe further by exploring the character arc for the daring overconfident pilot. Finn was given a reason to fight for the rebellion instead of trying to run away with Rey every 5 minutes. We got some absolutely great character development with Rey having a natural inclination to the dark side which builds on the fact she used the dark side to defeat Kylo in 7, and we use her as a lens to explore the “born special” trope in Star Wars, getting into more of her past history and getting satisfying answers.

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      12 days ago

      Ehh. 7 was kinda of a rehash of 4, and 8 tried to fix that. Tried. But i would still rather watch a movie stumble over its own dick trying to be original, than just being a glorified reboot.

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      If you think 7 is good you are a hopeless movie watcher, it set up nothing just typical jj abrams mystery boxes, is a straight up rehashing of A new hope and it did nothing of note. 8 tried to deviate from another shadowy mysterious bad guy aka Wish.com palpatine and do something different and it did it well.

      And then 9 is a straight up piece of shit the only good part of it is the first montage with Kylo Ten being the boss and fucking shit up, they really dropped the ball by backpedaling from 8

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        12 days ago

        I didn’t say 7 was good, only that I was willing to be more forgiving since it was Disney’s first Star Wars film.

        8 did nothing well but destroy Star Wars at every turn. I would say because of what it did, I consider 9 to be better than 8. 9 could never have been good, and that is completely the fault of 8.

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          9 is a flaming piece of shit on every level. I think its even insulting to call it a movie given how fucking shit it is.

          How can you say that 9 is better than 8 because 8 destoryed stuff (what exactly?) Meanwhile 9 literally destroys the whole OT and PT story arc of Anakin/Vader