ROUND 11: 🇦🇹 Austria

FORMULA 1 QATAR AIRWAYS AUSTRIAN GRAND PRIX 2024

Circuit stats

  • First Grand Prix: 1970
  • Number of laps: 71
  • Circuit Length: 4.318 km
  • Race Distance: 306.452 km
  • Lap record: 1:05.619 Carlos Sainz (2020)
  • 2023 winner: Max Verstappen

Track Map

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  • Microw@lemm.ee
    2·
    5 months ago

    Lando was ahead at the apex, Max should have backed out or when going through the grass given the position to Lando. That’s a pretty straight forward case IMO. However Lando did provoke him into that error for sure

    • GoodEye8@lemm.eeEnglish
      4·
      5 months ago

      I don’t think it’s that straight forward. Norris dove so deep he almost went off track himself. He didn’t leave Verstappen space so Verstappen had to go off track. Implying Norris had the right for the position sets a dangerous precedent where you can simply divebomb deep into the corner, cut off the entire corner and the person you want to pass has to give the position to you.

      • jimbolauski@lemm.ee
        21·
        5 months ago

        2021 set that precedent, that was Max’s signature move. Brake late to get ahead on the inside, go wide, and push your opponent off the track.

        • GoodEye8@lemm.eeEnglish
          1·
          5 months ago

          Max set the precedent that you can do such a divebomb not that you couldn’t retake off track. You’re arguing to make the move even stronger by disallowing retaking off track.

        • GoodEye8@lemm.eeEnglish
          0·
          5 months ago

          That was to point out that he didn’t leave room for Verstappen. If Norris is already almost off the track, where is Verstappen supposed to go? Magically teleport through Norris?

            • GoodEye8@lemm.eeEnglish
              0·
              5 months ago

              But if Max wanted to overtake because he was quicker out of the corner? Where would he go?

              • essteeyou@lemmy.world
                0·
                5 months ago

                Every driver has a few choices. Brake and wait, go off the track, or collide. You’re not allowed to overtake off track, and you shouldn’t cause a collision, so what’s left?

      • Microw@lemm.ee
        0·
        5 months ago

        But that is not for Max to decide. The stewards could have given Lando a penalty for that. But Max definitely should have given the position to Lando IMO.

    • Sentau@discuss.tchncs.de
      1·
      5 months ago

      Lando was ahead at the apex, Max should have backed out.

      This was only because he broke so late that he did not make the apex and almost did not make the corner, certainly left no space for max. If that is how things will be, we will see max divebombing and going into people from now on because like Alonso he too takes advantage of dubious stewarding.