• gerryflap@feddit.nl
    27·
    2 months ago

    My 10 year old laptop (which has been running Linux for 9.5 years now) has an SSD, so it’ll restart in a normal amount of time. Even old laptops no longer have HDDs only

    • Psythik@lemmy.world
      11·
      2 months ago

      I’ve on more than one occasion saved an old laptop from being replaced simply by slapping a cheap SATA SSD into them. The owners are almost always convinced that they needed a new PC, when all they do with it is browse Facebook and watch TikTok all day.

  • HStone32@lemmy.world
    20·
    2 months ago

    I’ve never experienced major slowdowns when running Linux on old laptops. It helps that OS fragmentation appears to be a problem exclusive to Windows

    • Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      51·
      2 months ago

      HDD too, with Linux. IME it’s just Windows chugging storage devices for entire minutes after booting, for no reason.

      • voxel@sopuli.xyz
        5·
        2 months ago

        (arch with gdm3 and gnome takes around 1:30-2 minutes to boot from an hdd on my old craptop)

        • ColdWater@lemmy.ca
          2·
          2 months ago

          Fr, modern DE just doesn’t work well with HDD, stutter everywhere and take ages to boot but most programs still lunch reasonably quick

    • lseif@sopuli.xyz
      31·
      2 months ago

      does that…help ?

      edit: obviously it does; i misread the post.

  • bassad@jlai.lu
    12·
    2 months ago

    Whaaat my laptop is 13yo, It is faster than new, just because I added ram and ssd 4 years ago

  • simple@lemm.ee
    11·
    2 months ago

    Kids these days will never know the frustration of booting a PC on an ancient HDD. I’d turn on my laptop, go do something else for 3 minutes, log in, go do something else for everything to wake up, then I can start using it.

    • feannag@sh.itjust.works
      5·
      2 months ago

      My MILs computer literally takes about 10-20 minutes to boot up. When I told her I’d help her upgrade it, she said she’s fine with it. She turns it on and then does a load of laundry while she waits. It’s painful.

    • AeroLemming@lemm.eeEnglish
      5·
      2 months ago

      This was how my relatively modern laptop with an HDD ran when it had Windows 10 (which it came with). The main difference was that it was closer to 5-10 minutes.

      I switched to Linux and the problem went away. Funny how that works.

    • JetpackJackson@feddit.org
      1·
      2 months ago

      I’m using an old laptop as my Linux machine. I set up auto login and sway launch so that I can just power it on when I wake up so I can use it later

    • cron@feddit.org
      1·
      2 months ago

      I’ve seen PCs that took something like 5 to 10 minutes to boot (xp era).

    • Emmie@lemm.ee
      21·
      2 months ago

      I remember my parents saying „hey don’t use it yet it has to warm up” and it really had to otherwise all sorts of unexplainable things would start to happen. Cold start of pc in the morning was really important ritual that no cc cleaners could shorten.

      Also viruses that would modify browser to something funny. A president of my country with a serious stare appeared at one point in my browser stating that this pc is seized by the government.

      It scared the shit out of young me with all the pirate CDs I had from street vendors. I don’t think even my windows was legit but a pirated one installed by PC parts business as an extra

      To be honest I hate modern web and only Lemmy is feeling cool somewhat again. Everything else about digital landscape has become lame af. Without the struggle things lose any meaning

        • u/lukmly013 💾 (lemmy.sdf.org)@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
          3·
          2 months ago

          1. I am a cheapskate

          2. I am too lazy to replace it (one of those modern hard to open laptops)

          3. I am too lazy to test and clone a 1TB (or more) drive

          I actually used an SSD before with an old laptop, but that only required removing 2 screws. As for cleaning out dust, I don’t use it much anyway, mainly because I don’t want to deal with cracking this open.

          I am just looking at getting some used ThinkPad.
          But anyway, most stuff can be done on a smartphone. On the other hand, I already killed 1 motherboard likely due to overheating while re-encoding videos to AV1 in Termux. It was replaced under warranty both times though. The second time it was just some issue with communicating with cameras. Yeah, I am on this phone’s 3rd motherboard.

          But anyway, it’s a laptop. I reboot it like once a month when updating, so it’s not a big deal.

  • TurboWafflz@lemmy.world
    5·
    2 months ago

    Just turn it off right after it shuts down before the OS starts booting again. (Or just turn it off whenever, it’s not like there’s much chance of filesystem corruption these days. Although there is a chance of registry corruption if you’re using windows and it’s updating, which is honestly worse to fix)

    • Possibly linux@lemmy.zipEnglish
      3·
      2 months ago

      Modern Windows (and Linux) is very hard to kill. You can unplug it all day without issue. Registry corruption and similar issues have not been an issue in decades.

      • wreckedcarzz@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        2 months ago

        I had to recover a W10 box from a family members work after windows had slowly given itself cancer of file corruption. I’ve dealt with this shit before and it’s not a big deal… usually…

        This fucker took 3 days of babysitting to bring back to life. In-place upgrades, it required multiple (why, no fucking idea), dism, sfc just chipping away bit by bit. And no, this is a work machine, so wipe and start fresh was reserved for actual “cannot be saved” situations. It has a backup plan, and I am the unofficial/unpaid IT guy for that location, but I don’t have license keys or installers for the software used (inherited situation), and it would add lots of friction to get running again. Absolutely not jumping on that grenade unless I must, it’s untested if a restore causes license validation errors (time checks and other bullshit).

        After that fiasco I applied a universal scheded task of dism followed by sfc, on a monthly basis, and every six months a few automated checks but also I pop my head in for a minute (remotely) just to validate that those automated tasks are running successfully.

        It’s been about… 4 years now? And it’s been working as-expected. But windows obliterating itself with no user input isn’t what I’d call ‘a thing of the past’.

        (also it wasn’t a hardware fault)

  • Xylight (Photon Dev)@lemm.ee
    2·
    2 months ago

    I don’t understand why many desktop environments don’t have a confirmation when you click one of those. Only ones I know that do it are GNOME and KDE

    • Perry@lemy.lol
      6·
      2 months ago

      The confirmation is annoying for many GNU+Linux users. It’s like asking are you sure you want to power off even though you had to use three or four keys or mouse clicks just to get to the poweroff menu.

      • teejay@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        2 months ago

        It’s not the total number of clicks that matters. It’s the fact that several options (sleep, reboot, shut down) are the same final click and often a pixel or two away from each other.

  • TunaCowboy@lemmy.world
    2·
    2 months ago

    51 years 8 seconds

    $ systemd-analyze
Startup finished in 2.277s (firmware) + 1.145s (loader) + 1.644s (kernel) + 3.211s (userspace) = 8.279s 
graphical.target reached after 3.211s in userspace.

$ lscpu | awk -F '  +' '/^ *M.* n/ {print $1, $2}'
Model name: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3517U CPU @ 1.90GHz

$ vmstat -s | awk -F '^ +' '/[0-9]* K t.* m/ {print $2}'
3901984 K total memory