• FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today
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    3 个月前

    As an artist, I like having the ability to tell people they cannot host my commercial works, cannot claim my own writing or characters for themselves, cannot reproduce them for profit, need my permission to sell them.

    I think copyright abuse is rampant and favors corporate entities far too much in most countries, but I think the solution is reform not destruction of the system.

    • psychothumbs@lemmy.worldOP
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      I’m more open to burning the whole edifice of copyright law down than you are, but the key reform that I want that maybe we could agree on is that it should be legal to distribute coprighted works for free. No need to to let someone else try to make a profit by undercutting your sales, but if someone is willing to make and distribute copies (or ecopies) of a work to no profit for themselves they should be allowed to. What that would mean in practice if it was legal would be an online content library containing all human art and culture, freely available for download to all comers. It might hurt the income of some creators, but you’d still have a lot of other ways to make money that don’t entail depriving people of that library.

      • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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        You can have that library today (see: Project Gutenberg), just on a delay. The problem, IMO, is that the delay is much too long. If copyright only lasted 10 years, it would be much more useful as a store of human knowledge. We could even allow an application for a longer term for smaller creators who need more time to monetize their works.

        That’s pretty close to how it used to work in the US, it has just been twisted by large orgs like Disney and the RIAA.

        • psychothumbs@lemmy.worldOP
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          Yeah Project Gutenberg really demonstrates how this is all pretty much already built, just illegal to include recent works in. Though of course that’s just books where the post copyright free library could also include all other art and culture such as tv, radio, movies, images, games, etc

      • FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today
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        Alright but Archiving is already an exception to most laws (clearly not well enforced seeing what happened to the IA) and your proposal would harm new artists who need to share their works in order to gain publicity for something they intend to sell and sustain themselves on.

        • psychothumbs@lemmy.worldOP
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          “your proposal would harm young artists who need to share their works in order to gain publicity for something they intend to sell and sustain themselves on.”

          The default is already for young artists to share a lot of their work hoping to get noticed. Getting rid of copyright would be reorienting the whole system to center that experience more rather than the established artists and art producing corporations who now are in a strong enough position to charge. “Making it” would just mean that your patreon was doing gangbusters rather than selling a lot of copies of whatever your art is.

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            No, it would empower anybody, especially corporations, to take the new artists’ ideas and work and repackage them as an item for sale to others. Anything you share would not be covered by copyright and therefor no longer be your property.

            Individuals cannot compete with organizations.

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              If you are already sharing something for free in order to gain publicity, what is the downside of others repackaging them and spreading them further? That is exactly the kind of publicity you’re trying to gain.

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            Pretty sure that’s a basic function of a publicly operated archive, but for sure there was a lot of nuance.

            • conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works
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              That’s the point, though. The law is very clear that mass distributing wholesale copyrighted works isn’t fair use. Digitizing it was the part justified by fair use “archival”. Distribution isn’t.

              You have to start over and throw out the old laws. Right now there’s no framework to own a file at all (outside of actually holding the copyright). It’s always a license.

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            As much as Copyright=Capitalism, yeah.

            Anarchy by definition is:

            1. Absence of any form of political authority.

            2. Political disorder and confusion.

            3. Absence of any cohesive principle, such as a common standard or purpose.

            Literally what that word has meant for generations, etymology stemming from middle French “Anarchie” in 16th century.

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              Oh as in you mean no copyright makes things more like an anarchy instead of becoming 100% anarchy. I see what you mean now.

  • nyan@lemmy.cafe
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    We need more examples?

    Seriously, though, there are options in between keeping copyright as it is and removing it altogether. Shortening the term is one. Mandatory mechanical licensing is another (that is, allowing people to make copies for a fee set by the government or a nonpartisan board without requiring permission from the copyright owner, who does, however, receive the fee—the trick is setting the fee at a level that makes it reasonable for the average person making a single copy, but still high enough to make it unattractive for corporations churning out millions of them). We also need to overhaul how derivative works are handled, and some aspects of trademark law.