Assuming there’s nothing stopping you from legally voting

  • breadsmasher@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Ok I will rephrase to be polite and respectful.

    When you are presented with the option of voting for or against fascism, what makes that choice difficult?

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      2 months ago

      I’ll continue to say this question still isn’t being asked in good faith.

      Of course the ballot isn’t literally, “do u want fascism or nah”

      It’s between two politicians. You and I are agree that one side is almost inherently better than the other, but you have to remember that a. the other side also believes that they are inherently better than the other, and b. not everyone believes that either side is inherently better than the other.

      Judging by your comments I’m assuming you’re pro-choice; if someone asked you, “when presented with the choice of outlawing the murder babies, what makes that choice difficult for you?”, you’d rightfully say they aren’t posing the question in a fair way to you. It’s the same thing here, if you’re trying to communicate with someone who doesn’t outright agree with you you can’t just outright attack their position or frame it in a negative light or you just make them defensive and not receptive to an alternative view.

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        2 months ago

        Of course the ballot isn’t literally, “do u want fascism or nah”

        This specific election is literally just this

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          2 months ago

          If you’re speaking hyperbolically, sure. But when you’re trying to have a genuine conversation with someone regarding a serious topic, using hyperbolic speech to belittle someone’s position is pretty lame

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            2 months ago

            If you’re speaking hyperbolically, sure.

            They are not. If trump wins many people will die. And he will be the new forever king of America.

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              2 months ago

              Ok, but LITERALLY, the ballot says Donald Trump or Joe Biden. HYPERBOLICALLY it says fascism or not. Words don’t just mean whatever we want them to mean, and if someone isn’t already on board with Trump = fascism (which, don’t get me wrong, I’m 100% on that boat), phrasing things in pointed, biased ways isn’t going to convince them that we’re the side of reason.

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                2 months ago

                phrasing things in pointed, biased ways isn’t going to convince them that we’re the side of reason.

                There is literally no way to reason these people out of the position they didn’t reason themselves into. I’m of the firm belief that we need to be heckling, calling out, and generally being as rude and mean as possible to Nazis. Make the fuckers squirm back into their hole.