Problem with American politics is there tens of millions of people on both sides of the party split who abhor the candidate they’ve voted for but that’s the candidate that won the primaries. So their options are vote their party, or waste their vote not voting, voting third party or voting the opposition party.
I think, looking at what has been published on him, it’s pretty clear as to why he shot Trump. For one, his personality lended itself to a
hero complex. He was really nice, shy, intelligent, informed, and helpful. He clearly had respect for the Republican party, but given the info on his friend group, it was likely due to peer pressure. This is mostly made obvious by his political donation to the Progressive Turnout Project he made. A project that no conservative really should want to encourage.
In all likelihood, this guy saw the direction the States was headed in and realized there was no way to stop it from imploding without resorting to extreme political violence. I imagined he was upset with the fact that he wouldn’t be able to do much through official channels in his life, so he made the ultimate sacrifice to will the change himself. That’s why this guy’s a hero in my books, not because he took a shot at Trump, but because he realized there’s nothing any of us normies can do about the States’ political situation through normal means, so he went above and beyond. He probably spent some time weighing the options as to whom to shoot, and realized Trump was the better pick.
Your opinion isn’t based on anything… The conversation around that single, small donation to a “Progressive” cause is developing. Last I heard, speculation was that it was a known very spammy PAC and it was asking some ambiguous, more centrist survey question and then you could donate. People will turn their backs to a mountain of evidence to focus on a Pebble on the ground behind them.
Now reasonable assumption is A) he was tricked into donating to a cause he would never knowingly support B) He meant to graze and wound, but not kill to try to make trump a martyr C) He actually wanted to kill trump to incite a civil war or race war and figured trump would be down to be the pin on the grenade because he was delusional D) he was straight up mentally ill and he wanted trump to go meet Jesus quickly to get a medal or some shit.
Cynicism will definitely lead you to civil war. Go read up on the Spanish civil war. Their experience might come in handy. Political violence won’t help you get out of this polarized mess, it will drag you in deeper.
Yah I mean, if your narrow understanding of what war is is Trumpets trying to take over the white house than yah, I guess one would hate the idea of using violence for the greater good.
so…given the implication that you have a broad comprehensive understanding of war, your solution is that we should just assassinate people we disagree with? make them martyrs?
That would be a big chuck of them. It seems many support him only because they fear retaliation from the anti-democratic red hats.
If he passed, how long before the red hat movement collapsed without him as its figurehead? How long before many conservatives started shifting/distancing themselves from his memory? I would guess not long at all.
that’s reductionist and turns Christian conservatives into a one dimensional monolith. my parents are extreme conservative Christians, creationists, maga, the whole stupid 9. they hate pedophiles with a burning passion, my mom and i were both victims of them.
there’s a whole problem with conservatives hating LGBT people because we’ve been lumped in with pedophiles for some reason, it’s their whole schtick
This is an online forum, not a political debate, do y’all not understand the social contexts and how figures of speech work? Everyone posts the same sad tired comment to appear like they’ve actually contributed something meaningful to jerk their own ego
So…. Why then? Was he one of those rare conservatives that don’t like Trump? I think I’ve only ever met maybe one or two.
Problem with American politics is there tens of millions of people on both sides of the party split who abhor the candidate they’ve voted for but that’s the candidate that won the primaries. So their options are vote their party, or waste their vote not voting, voting third party or voting the opposition party.
They usually don’t talk about it because either they are lumped into trump supporters or attacked by the former for being a liberal pansy.
I think, looking at what has been published on him, it’s pretty clear as to why he shot Trump. For one, his personality lended itself to a hero complex. He was really nice, shy, intelligent, informed, and helpful. He clearly had respect for the Republican party, but given the info on his friend group, it was likely due to peer pressure. This is mostly made obvious by his political donation to the Progressive Turnout Project he made. A project that no conservative really should want to encourage.
In all likelihood, this guy saw the direction the States was headed in and realized there was no way to stop it from imploding without resorting to extreme political violence. I imagined he was upset with the fact that he wouldn’t be able to do much through official channels in his life, so he made the ultimate sacrifice to will the change himself. That’s why this guy’s a hero in my books, not because he took a shot at Trump, but because he realized there’s nothing any of us normies can do about the States’ political situation through normal means, so he went above and beyond. He probably spent some time weighing the options as to whom to shoot, and realized Trump was the better pick.
Your opinion isn’t based on anything… The conversation around that single, small donation to a “Progressive” cause is developing. Last I heard, speculation was that it was a known very spammy PAC and it was asking some ambiguous, more centrist survey question and then you could donate. People will turn their backs to a mountain of evidence to focus on a Pebble on the ground behind them.
Now reasonable assumption is A) he was tricked into donating to a cause he would never knowingly support B) He meant to graze and wound, but not kill to try to make trump a martyr C) He actually wanted to kill trump to incite a civil war or race war and figured trump would be down to be the pin on the grenade because he was delusional D) he was straight up mentally ill and he wanted trump to go meet Jesus quickly to get a medal or some shit.
What are you talking about dude? Have you read anything regarding the shooter?
Cynicism will definitely lead you to civil war. Go read up on the Spanish civil war. Their experience might come in handy. Political violence won’t help you get out of this polarized mess, it will drag you in deeper.
If radical change is what’s necessary. Then civil wars should be on the table. Besides, I’m sure the shooter’s goal wasn’t to depolarize the masses.
“civil war” in this country = the US military vs the side that gets obliterated inside of 1 week. the question is which side they will pick
Still, that sort of sacrifice should be expected if you want to make changes in your country (the US)
it’s the people who are trying to STOP change, or undo it, who are talking about civil war.
Yah I mean, if your narrow understanding of what war is is Trumpets trying to take over the white house than yah, I guess one would hate the idea of using violence for the greater good.
so…given the implication that you have a broad comprehensive understanding of war, your solution is that we should just assassinate people we disagree with? make them martyrs?
gtfo dude
I’ve met the “I don’t like Trump, but he’s a Republican, so…” Variant.
That would be a big chuck of them. It seems many support him only because they fear retaliation from the anti-democratic red hats.
If he passed, how long before the red hat movement collapsed without him as its figurehead? How long before many conservatives started shifting/distancing themselves from his memory? I would guess not long at all.
His Twitter page preached hate for Epstein and pedophiles.
He had a twitter page??
Sorry, I saw a screenshot of Twitter. Seems to be Instagram, but so far unverified.
That’s not him. the pic is a troll that immediately regretted spreading his own pic and posing as crooks.
Definitely not a Christian Conservative then.
that’s reductionist and turns Christian conservatives into a one dimensional monolith. my parents are extreme conservative Christians, creationists, maga, the whole stupid 9. they hate pedophiles with a burning passion, my mom and i were both victims of them.
there’s a whole problem with conservatives hating LGBT people because we’ve been lumped in with pedophiles for some reason, it’s their whole schtick
We’re not here to think or be reasonable, the goal is to be the most outraged.
This is an online forum, not a political debate, do y’all not understand the social contexts and how figures of speech work? Everyone posts the same sad tired comment to appear like they’ve actually contributed something meaningful to jerk their own ego
Reminds me of that key and Peele sketch
You’re just agreeing with me, but that makes me the bad guy for pointing it out.
The irony being that me saying be as outraged as possible is, of course, a figure of speech and not meant to be taken literally.