South Korea’s record-breaking Olympic shooter -Kim Yeji.

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    This meme is funny but they are pretty similar. The only “gear” Yejin is wearing is the shooting glasses, which is basically a prescription lens (no magnification is allowed - these lens make things look less blurry, but can’t make them look bigger) on a frame that allows more adjustment than normal eyeglasses, with a piece of plastic instead of lens over the other eye. You can achieve something very similar by taping a piece of paper to the left lens of your own glasses.

    The advantage shooting glasses provide is the ability to move the lens up/down/sideways. Depending on your specific shooting stance, if your head is tilted too much, normal eyeglasses may not provide the best field of view if you’re only looking through one side of it. In those cases, you buy a pair of shooting glasses and move the lens. If you look at Yejin’s shooting stance, her arm is almost parallel with her body, whereas Dikec’s arm is slightly angled forwards (not much, maybe 10 degrees?). This means Dikec can see more out of his regular eyeglasses than Yejin can in their respective shooting stances, which is probably why Dikec didn’t need shooting glasses.

    No other gear is allowed in this event - shoes cannot go above the ankle, clothing cannot restrict movement. Most people wear some sort of flat-soled shoes, whatever clothing you wear literally doesn’t matter except to keep you warm/cool. This is in contrast to air rifle, where stiff clothing is allowed - competitors basically wear what looks like clunky armor (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fd/Air-rifle-shooting.jpg), it’s hard to bend your knees in them and nearly impossible to squat. I used to train with those guys, I’d take the piss out of them by pretending to be nice and offering them some water, then putting it on the floor in front of them.

    And before anyone mentions it, putting their hand in the pocket is the standard stance for air pistol shooting. Only one hand is allowed on the gun. And in a sport where your breathing and heart rate interferes with your accuracy, having one hand free means it might move around and cause micro movements to your body, so everyone puts their other hand in their jacket/pants pocket, or tucks the thumb in their waistband.

    It does look badass though.

    Source: I used to compete in ISSF 10m and 25m air pistol events like these (this is 10m)

    FINAL EDIT: I just wanted to end by saying that Dikec (the Turkish guy) may look cool and casual, and I enjoy all the “retired hitman rolls out of bed casually” memes just as much as everyone, but don’t let that diminish the decades of training and dedication he’s put into the sport. Dude has been competing for more than 20 years and first set a world record in a different shooting event in 2006. Shooting is one sport where age isn’t a big disadvantage.

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          I did look at the picture again, and those glasses seem a lot more custom then that guy explained.

          Like, in something where eye sight is so important, corrective lens/surgery/contacts/whatever does seem like a super grey area.

          Like, they could “dial it in” so her vision is perfect for the set range. And having adjustments be possible on the fly makes it seem that’s what they’re doing. 20/20 isn’t “perfect” it’s average. I got LASIK and right after mine was like 20/15 from being 20/200 or something ridiculous. How do you prove corrective lenses only bring them up to average eyesight? And it’s safe to assume people without them are better than 20/20, so should they be allowed to go as high as them?

          And honestly, that elephant was just a joke the first time I saw it, but it’s tied tight around her finger.

          That makes pulse a lot more noticeable, and controlling heart rate and breathing is also important here.

          So like, she’s not cheating, she’s just going up exactly to the line. Which is why it makes the old dude more impressive

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            I have had some involvement in very similar rifle shooting and there is obviously crossovers with pistol shooting. Honestly the fact that you consider those glasses a “gray area” of cheating made me snort laugh. No one in that sport would consider that even close to cheating. Full stop. I’m not trying to be rude but you clearly know nothing about this sport. Those glasses are ubiquitous in many types of competitive shooting at this level especially air pistol/rifle.

            In fact if you think this is cheating you need to see what rifle shooters wear because those rules allow way more gear (including your “grey area” glasses).

            Also you don’t need something tied to your finger to feel your heart rate…You can clearly see your heart rate in your sights (yes, even irons).It could be a counter balance if it was measured perfectly but that’s risky because if her stance changed at all it could pull her off. I’m honestly surprised her coaches let her risk having that thing at all. It looks like a liability to me.

            Edit: I just went back and looked a d there’s no way that things a counter weight. It would need to be close to the weight of that pistol to be helpful. Air pistols are light but they aren’t “stuffy” light.

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            Eyesight is not the issue here - this isn’t an eye test. At 10m the target looks like a small circle, there isn’t any further detail to see. Air pistols can only have iron sights, so there are three things to look at while shooting: the rear sight, the front sight, and the target. If you’re focusing on the right thing (your sights), the target will be slightly out of focus anyway.

            So yes, anyone with perfect eyesight can get lenses made, but it doesn’t help much. Back when I was shooting, the best guy on my team had like +0.75 in his shooting eye but he didn’t bother wearing corrective lens while shooting. That said, I was a teenager so standards were different - maybe you do need perfect eyesight to compete at an Olympics level. But everyone can buy shooting glasses with corrective lens anyway.

            The glasses are custom in the sense that nobody wears them outside of shooting because you look like a dork in them, but they can be bought off the shelf - this is the first result I found on Google, there are tons more:

            https://buinger.com/Shooting-Glasses

            The elephant… I’ve never seen it before, it’s probably light enough that it doesn’t work as a counterweight. But you don’t need that to judge your own heart rate. When your gun is lifted you can feel your own heartrate.

            As for cheating… The real cheating occurs with stuff like heart medication to make your heartbeat slower, and beta blockers to reduce anxiety. A lot of shooting is a mental game. At a high enough level, nearly every shot needs to be a bullseye, so it’s about maintaining that consistent standard and not letting the occasional 9/10 shot creep into your head and affect the rest of your shots.

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              If you’re focusing on the right thing (your sights), the target will be slightly out of focus anyway.

              One description I found said that the lens part of her glasses contains an adjustable “iris that can be adjusted to change the perceived depth of field” - which sounds to me like an adjustable aperture in photography. With a smaller aperture (larger f-number in photography) I believe she would potentially be able to have both the sights and the target in focus? Otherwise I’m not sure what the point would be.

              Edit; Oh - and the elephant is her daughter’s. :-)

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              Air pistols can only have iron sights

              Gee, maybe that’s why she’s wearing those crazy glasses in the picture…

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                It’s already been explained that the glasses cannot have magnification, so what advantage do you think they offer when looking through iron sights?

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                  And also that theyre prescription…

                  And 20/20 isn’t “perfect” vision, it’s perfectly average.

                  So someone can get glasses to improve their vision (especially at a certain distance) to better than 20/20 and have an advantage.

                  While still not having magnification.

                  Do you think glasses that help you see further are working via magnification?

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      (no magnification is allowed)

      What would a person do who needs prescription glasses? Put me there with ±0 glasses, and I’d be just a threat to the environment, because I had a hard time to know where I’m roughly pointing that thing…

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        Prescription glasses are allowed - both competitors are wearing them. Those lens can correct for short sightedness, astigmatism etc, but they’re the exact same lens you find in eyeglasses. I used to wear these - I bought the shooting glasses off the shelf (or rather our club got them in bulk for us), then to get the lens made, I went to the exact same optical store where I got my prescription glasses made and basically told them to just order one lens for my right eye.

        What I meant by magnification was, you can’t put optics on it so it works like a 2x scope. So the lens can make stuff look less blurry but not make it look bigger.

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        Eyeglasses vs binoculars.

        Eyeglasses unblur the world to those who need them, but there’s no magnification.

        Look through binoculars and things look a lot closer because of the magnification. But you can also make it look blurry if you turn the adjustment the wrong way.

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    Dude looks like some random Joe walking into the stadium and taking some shots before wandering off to the next pub. I love it.

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      This guy practiced on beer cans back home

      Probably bull’s-eyes womp rats in his T16.

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      Lady looking hard as hell in her posh jacket and hat, as she bullseyes with the professional acumen of a trained killer.

      Dude looking like he rolled out of bed, on that daily grind, going to win a medal and then grab some coffee, kiss the wife, and mow the yard.

      The definition of the two genders.

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    I wonder if he would have done better with the equipment. I suppose he couldn’t just put it on if he didn’t train with it, but what if he had trained with it?

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      These are air pistols which shoot pellets propelled by compressed air, not your usual guns. They make a moderately loud pop, but nothing like gunpowder - you can stand behind someone firing and have a normal conversation.

      That said the guy is wearing earplugs - more for concentration and to block out crowd noise than anything

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        Ah earplugs are cool and that totally counts as ear protection. It’s what I use anyway when I go to the shooting range or ride my ninja 650.

        Couldn’t make out that it was an air gun from just the photo.

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      Are those “real” pistols, or air pistols? Because the latter should make you deaf. So.eone else commented, they’d not use it for protection but to focus and reduce distractions from the audience and other sounds