Except LLMs don’t actually have real reasoning capacity. Hooking in different models that can translate more of the world to text could give the LLM a broader domain, but not an entirely new ability beyond its architecture. That might make it more convincing, but it would still fail in the same ways as it currently does.
You’re doing reasoning based on chemical reactions. Who says it can’t do reasoning based on text? Who says it’s not doing that already in some capacity? Can you prove that?
Is language conscious? Is it possible to “encode” human thinking into the media we produce?
Humans certainly “decode” ideas, knowledge, trains of logic and more from media, but does that mean the media contains the components of consciousness?
Is it possible to produce a machine that “decodes” not the content of media, but the process through which it was produced? Does media contain the latter in the first place?
How can you tell the difference if it does?
The more I learn about how modern machine learning actually works, the more certain I become that even if having a machine “decode” human media is the path to AGI, LLMs ain’t it.
It just doesn’t work in a way that would allow for a mind to arise.
I don’t know if LLMs of a large enough size can achieve (or sufficiently emulate) consciousness, but I do know that we barely know anything about consciousness, let alone it’s limits.
If you genuinely think LLMs are anyway capable of even basic reasoning despite all arguments towards the contrary, I honestly don’t want to try convincing you anymore. You’re asking for a miracle out of me—to explain consciousness itself, even—while you can just say “but there’s a chance” even though LLMs can’t get basic facts right.
Except LLMs don’t actually have real reasoning capacity. Hooking in different models that can translate more of the world to text could give the LLM a broader domain, but not an entirely new ability beyond its architecture. That might make it more convincing, but it would still fail in the same ways as it currently does.
You’re doing reasoning based on chemical reactions. Who says it can’t do reasoning based on text? Who says it’s not doing that already in some capacity? Can you prove that?
Is language conscious? Is it possible to “encode” human thinking into the media we produce?
Humans certainly “decode” ideas, knowledge, trains of logic and more from media, but does that mean the media contains the components of consciousness?
Is it possible to produce a machine that “decodes” not the content of media, but the process through which it was produced? Does media contain the latter in the first place?
How can you tell the difference if it does?
The more I learn about how modern machine learning actually works, the more certain I become that even if having a machine “decode” human media is the path to AGI, LLMs ain’t it.
It just doesn’t work in a way that would allow for a mind to arise.
Are atoms?
I don’t know if LLMs of a large enough size can achieve (or sufficiently emulate) consciousness, but I do know that we barely know anything about consciousness, let alone it’s limits.
Saying “we don’t know, and it’s complicated, therefore there’s a chance, maybe, depending” is not an argument.
If you genuinely think LLMs are anyway capable of even basic reasoning despite all arguments towards the contrary, I honestly don’t want to try convincing you anymore. You’re asking for a miracle out of me—to explain consciousness itself, even—while you can just say “but there’s a chance” even though LLMs can’t get basic facts right.