• ohwhatfollyisman@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    patriotism is nothing but loyalty to real estate. - dr. gregory house.

    seriously, though. it’s high time we thought of ourselves as co-passengers on a single planet-sized ship rather than attributing memberships to everyone on the basis of arbitrarily drawn lines on a map.

    • TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com
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      Patriotism is the belief that together we can make this place really lasting and good.

      Nationalism is the belief that no place could compare to your nation and every other nation needs to show fealty.

      I’m ok with patriotism.

      I’m not ok with nationalism.

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        2 months ago

        Patriotism is the belief that together we can make this place really lasting and good.

        the problem is with the definition of “this place”. a patriot’s vision of “this place” is restricted by borders drawn by politicians.

        no sane person should ever “be ok” with that extent of tunnel vision. “this place” should extend to the world we all share.

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    2 months ago

    There’s a machinist I watch on YouTube that took a small hiatus and came back significantly more patriotic. He actually started to begin all his videos with the pledge of allegiance and I seriously thought he went off the MAGA deep end.

    He eventually sat down and made a video about the sudden change: he said he hates the way that people nowadays claim to love America yet seek out to destroy the fundamental things that made it the way it is. He said the hardest working, most exemplary Americans he knows are the ones that came here from another country to make a better life for their family and community, and being a true patriotic American is lifting up your brothers and sisters through hard work and respect, to make our lives and our country a better place.

    THAT is what patriotism looks like.

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    2 months ago

    The way I see it, patriotism is a gateway-philosophy to nationalism. At best I think it is unproductive and at worst it facilitates nationalism. In my native language there is no distinction between the concepts and last time it discussed in a non-negative light was during the Nazi occupation.

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    2 months ago

    Imagine self hating your country so much like a lot of people do in these comments. Lol.

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      2 months ago

      “They don’t think their country is gods gift to the universe and their are issues with where they live that need correcting. They must hate their country lol”

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          Not the point, you were referencing the people in the comments. Which at the time of my viewing didn’t have anyone just trashing their countries. At the most people were simply bringing up issues and talking about how blind loyalty is a problem.