• Ukraine downed a Russian Su-34 fighter jet over Kursk amid an ongoing territorial push.
  • The Su-34, worth around $36 million, is Russia’s most efficient fighter bomber with advanced tech.
  • Ukraine has previously held long kill streaks with Russian Su-34s.
  • brucethemoose@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    So they’d become a kind of vassal state?

    I could totally see that, especially if something happens to Putin.

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      1 month ago

      What I saw was that North China is DRY. They need tons of water. And russia has lake Baikal nearby. These kinds of Nestlé-style tricks.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlUJwbL7SM8

      Imagine all the anger russians feel towards the US for not being able to magically fix their country in the 90s but now turned towards their growing and grabby neighbour.

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        1 month ago

        Wait, did Russians really believe the U.S. was supposed to fix it after the collapse of the USSR?

        That’s not how government works what the hell is wrong with people over there

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          Although funny enough that’s what we promised to do in Japan after WWII.

          https://youtu.be/YzRWPGSaKDk

          They did experience rapid economic growth, and did move to a democratic government, though as usual the right wing leadership took hold both here and there, and we just wanted Japan as a military base to counter those commie Russians, and they wanted to nullify the treaty preventing them from having a standard army

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          1 month ago

          I’m exaggerating for the sake of argument, but I’ve seen tankies and russians on youtube make this argument unironically to justify why russia had the right to do whatever it wanted to recover its empire and that they had a right to revenge for the “decade of humiliation” and shock therapy.

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          1 month ago

          For what it’s worth the west had a history of helping in these events, we did fuck all for them really when the Soviet Union broke apart.

          It wasn’t our job, but it woulda gone a LONG fucking way to bettering relations.

          I could see feeling bitter we didn’t help but to take it as far as blaming us for their woes is just classic “it’s their fault” mentality.

          Look at Japan and Germany as examples of how it may have played out.