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    Countries ranked in descending order by number of school shootings from 2009-2018:

    • United States: 288
    • Mexico: 8
    • South Africa: 6
    • Afghanistan: 3
    • Brazil, Canada, France: 2
    • Azerbaijan, China, Estonia, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Kenya, Russia, Turkey: 1

    One of these is not like the others. This isn’t exactly a fact of life in other parts of the world.

    Source

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      More data:

      Top 10 Countries with Highest Gun Ownership (Civilian guns owned per 100 people):

      • United States - 120.50
      • Falkland Islands - 62.10
      • Yemen - 52.80
      • New Caledonia - 42.50
      • Serbia - 39.10
      • Montenegro - 39.10
      • Canada - 34.70
      • Uruguay - 34.70
      • Cyprus - 34
      • Finland - 32.40

      10 Countries with the Most Gun Deaths (Total gun deaths):

      • Brazil - 49,437
      • United States - 37,040
      • Mexico - 22,119
      • India - 14,711
      • Colombia - 13,171
      • Venezuela - 10,599
      • Philippines - 9,268
      • Guatemala - 5,981
      • Nigeria - 5,103
      • Iraq - 4,424
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        Those numbers aren’t right.

        First, the total-gun-death numbers are not population-adjusted and therefore useless without additional context. The same article does have the population-adjusted numbers and the USA is, predictably, not in the top ten.

        Second, once the numbers are adjusted for population, there are some very strange results. For example, apparently Iraq actually has slightly fewer gun deaths per capita than the USA. Nigeria, the country where Boko Haram is based, has four times fewer gun deaths per capita than the USA?! Clearly the gun-death numbers correspond more to how well records are kept in a country than they do to the actual numbers of gun deaths.

        Oh, and those gun death numbers include suicides, not just murders. Most gun deaths in the USA are suicides. A suicide is technically a gun death, but not usually the sort that people have in mind when discussing a school shooting.

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          everything you said is true. i just wanted to add something to the suicide point: owning a gun has been tied with an increased risk of suicide. source

          here’s a quote from the link that i think gives a good summary of the problem:

          “Suicide attempts are often impulsive acts, driven by transient life crises,” the authors write. “Most attempts are not fatal, and most people who attempt suicide do not go on to die in a future suicide. Whether a suicide attempt is fatal depends heavily on the lethality of the method used — and firearms are extremely lethal. These facts focus attention on firearm access as a risk factor for suicide especially in the United States, which has a higher prevalence of civilian-owned firearms than any other country and one of the highest rates of suicide by firearm.”

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          And again the old and stupid claim from the gun nuts: suicides by firearms are no firearm related deaths…

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    Trump gets shot at and the country says there is no room for political violence, we wish him well. Children get shot every single day, that’s just a matter of life, child-sized coffin sales sky-rocket.

    But really, why aren’t more politicians being shot? I think if they were the targets instead of innocent children, gun reform would be both swift and severe.

    Now, I’m not saying that political violence is acceptable, but I’m certainly not not saying it.

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      Becauss the people who go out and try to solve their problems with violence on a scale that would give us that pattern are the republican base. There are plenty of examples outside of that group, obviously, but even the guy who tried to shoot Trump had been a republican until very shortly before the attempt.

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    1. Force unwanted children into this world
    2. Give no childcare support
    3. Send them to underfunded schools
    4. Offer no mental healthcare programs
    5. Make guns readily available
    6. “Facts of life”
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    Notice how Vance and the other right-wing pricks don’t apply the same reasoning to abortion. Nope, in THAT case they can come up with law after law after law to address the issue. When it comes to the lives of children already here? Pfffttt… perish the thought and the child.

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    “You cat ladies just need to make more babies to replace the children killed by gunfire in schools,” said the not insane guy who wants to rule the country and women’s bodies under Project 2025.

    Jokes aside, Trump is clearly falling apart. The Heritage Foundation and Federalist Society have gone all-in on Vance. He’s the real would-be dictator. Once elections become rigged at the federal level, he will be President and your vote won’t matter.

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    Ok, so logically GOP presidential candidate shooting are also. Thoughts & prayers & get over it and all that.

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    So my take away here is that JD Couchfucker here is saying neither he or Trump are powerful enough to do anything. Is that really the message you want to be sending during your campaign for the highest office in America?

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    How about this.

    Take JD Vance saying that this is just a “fact of life” and start playing that on political ads all over Georgia. I don’t like the idea of exploiting tragedy for political purposes but I think people who are considering voting for this waste of oxygen should know that he considers their kids nothing more than collateral damage.