• Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world
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    12 days ago

    Can you name one superhero movie that follows the plot of the OP comic?

    The closest I can think of is Thanos killing half the people in the universe and the heroes trying to stop him. You’re on Thanos’s side?

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      12 days ago

      I don’t watch them, because I don’t enjoy Disney spoonfeeding me low effort, regurgitated swill on the quarterly.

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        12 days ago

        So you… object to the idea of what you think the movies are like, to the point that you have no idea what they’re like?

        … And that sounds reasonable to you?

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          12 days ago

          So you’d continue to watch snuff porn to be sure you’re well informed on the subject?

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            12 days ago

            The issue isn’t that you’re not well informed.

            The issue is that, when confronted with being wrong about something you’re uninformed about, you double down and act like an ass.

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              All I ever said was that I’ve begun judging people that enjoy these movies, and stated that I believe the movies are trash. These are all subjective statements, and just because they don’t agree with your opinions, doesn’t make them inherently wrong.

              Get a grip on yourself.

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                  11 days ago

                  Why? I’m not anti-cartoon by any means. I just primarily think that most Marvel and DC movies are low effort, consumer brain rot.

                  I will say that DC has a slightly better track record, though. And when I say Marvel, I mostly mean the MCU. There were some decent Marvel films outside of the MCU. I’ll fuck with some X-Men, Blade, etc.

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                12 days ago

                I’ve begun judging people that enjoy these movies… I believe the movies are trash.

                …just because they don’t agree with your opinions, doesn’t make them inherently wrong.

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      12 days ago

      None and all of them. The video has been posted before but the essence is that the overwhelming part of Marvel’s films deals with the folloing scenary:

      Bad guy tries to change something, often for legitimate reasons. God guys stop bad guy and everything stays the same. Even when people try to change something in a good way there is always something that goes horribly wrong.

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        The hypothesis falls apart when the author ties the real world problems of poverty, injustice and ecological disasters to the superheroes negligence.

        1. The premises of the movies are that they are grounded in the real world. As such if superheroes transformed the world it would no longer be a recognizable setting for movie audiences.

        2. 2 hours of showing Iron Man digging wells in Africa isn’t entertaining.

        3. The ability of an individual, even if superpowered, to change society is extremely limited. We have the example of Bill Gates having spent decades and tens of billions just to irradicate a single disease. What is Captain America going to do to control health care costs? Beat cancer cells in a petri dish?

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          1. Grounded in the real world really stretches the trope when you consider there to be countless planets of hyper advanced beings and demi gods.

          It’s always seemed strange to me that earth never made any sort of meaningfull technological progress despite having access to a galaxy full of new tech. The only progress we see is that the ~~ elites~~ heroes equipment is getting more fancy with each movie.

          Secondly why should a more technological advanced setting be unrecognizable to the viewer? Especially if the progress stretches over as many movies as the MCU contains?

          1. No one is asking for painstaking detail. James Bond defeating a guy who tries to privatize the water supply of a whole country was overall a decent movie IMO, only implying the problem for everyday people that arose from evil guys plan. It’s all about the storytelling: Avengers find cool new tech that helps solve some earthly problem. Some people stand to lose a lot of money (think pharma industry becoming obsolete or similar) and plot against it. Avengers snuff out the plot, defeat evil mastermind and implement technology. Progress!

          2. Maybe there are certain problems that can’t be solved by punching things? Like for example finding a way to timetravel in order to collect the infinity stones, which Toni Stark seems to be able to do while sipping his afternoon coffee. Individual impact has never been a problem in the MCU. After all we are talking about a superhero movie. And what does Captain America do while Toni Stark eradicates Cancer? Deal with the backlash (see 2.).

          Also, going back to your first remark: Superheroes dealing with poverty and injustice is the whole subplot of Black Panther.