• mojofrododojo@lemmy.world
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    16 days ago

    then why not embody the change you’d like to see. if it’s truly a better way, go nuts bro.

    because from here it just looks like “why don’t they quit protesting and start blowing up oil facilities lol”

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      16 days ago

      When black people fought for civil rights, they went where their civil rights were being infringed upon, they exercised their rights anyway, and showed the world the infringement. They didn’t go into black communities and hassle black people just going about their days to “bring awareness” to the problem of civil rights infringement. Because that would be stupid. You don’t harass the victims of infringement. You go after the perpetrators.

      Now, the oil industry is victimizing the general public, and JSO… Is also victimizing the general public.

      Fuck. That. Shit.

      Target the oil industry, and get the fuck out of the street.

      • mojofrododojo@lemmy.world
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        16 days ago

        Nope. Targeting the industry alone isn’t going to change people’s way of thinking. Consumers who face no consequences for using a fuel that’s rapidly warming and destroying the ecosystem need waking up too.

        Sounds like this upsets you, boo fuckin’ hoo.

        And keep the black struggle for civil rights out of your fucking mouth, their work deserves better than you using them to shill for oil comfort.

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          16 days ago

          Switching to an electric car doesn’t get them out of a JSO-sponsored traffic jam. Nothing about the JSO actions provides any incentive for the consumer to actually do anything about oil.

          You take out the gas stations, you’ll actually be inconveniencing the consumers who still use them. And only those consumers. Everyone else is untouched. You’re also promoting the remaining shops that don’t offer fossil fuels, by removing their competition. You won’t be interfering with the ambulances and electric cars either.

          Consumers will get the hint that oil is under indictment, and factor that into their next car buying decision. That doesn’t happen when an electric car doesn’t get them past a JSO traffic jam.

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            16 days ago

            You approach the whole issue as if it were just up to consumers to stop oil by changing their habits. It isn’t. Switching to an EV isn’t a solution when you’re still paying taxes that go into subsidizing fossil fuels. (Switching to an EV for getting around in a city isn’t a solution anyways, use public transit or get a bicycle). Consumers won’t stop consuming oil until the full cost (including all externalities) of it is shown in the price tag. Action is needed at the political level, and that won’t happen unless enough noise is made regarding the issue. That’s what JSO is doing.

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            16 days ago

            The electric cars are powered by gas and coal in the uk. We are a long way from pure renewable electricity and between mining and shipping metals, steel, and tyres they’re not quite the perfect green vehicles they’re presented as.