At least 13 people have been killed in a blast outside Gaza City’s biggest hospital, the Hamas-run health ministry in Gaza says.
BBC Verify has verified graphic videos showing badly injured and possibly dead people lying outside the hospital.
The Israeli military has confirmed it struck an ambulance that it says was being used by Hamas operatives.
It did not say where the air strike took place.
“An IDF aircraft struck an ambulance that was identified by forces as being used by a Hamas terrorist cell in close proximity to their position in the battle zone,” it said in a statement.
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Always say that Hamas was doing X.
Stop killing innocent people. Unless there intention is to radicalise more people.
If you killed my family I’d probably join Hamas.
The other thing is they justify it saying they drove us to this, but what drives Hamas to commit evil acts? Is it the oppression!
Back in the early days after 9/11, some brilliant genius made a Flash game to explain the problem:
You have a crowded marketplace filled with people in stereotypical Arab dress, and one terrorist. He’s easy to spot because he has a gun.
Take your mouse, point and click on the terrorist, boom. Dead.
The collateral damage from killing the terrorist impacts the civilians around him creating 3-5 more terrorists. You can’t “win”, there will always be another terrorist. Your own actions perpetuate them.
The idea being to teach the player that the violent action of killing the first terrorist is, itself, the wrong action. “The only winning move is not to play” and all that.
The problem for us, as citizens of the 21st century, is that first action and which side took it is so far removed from living memory that all we get is a continual string of arguments of “Well you did x” and “but you did y” and “we wouldn’t have had to do y except that you did z”.
We aren’t going to get ANYWHERE until someone steps back and says “Yes, what Hamas did were war crimes, and what Israel is doing in response are ALSO war crimes.” One does not justify the other.
Is it the oppression!
Objectively not. Most of the decision makers for Hamas live comfortably in Quatar.
It’s probably the multi-decades long commitment to genocide.
You think Israel has been planning this genocide for that long? Interesting take that I’d yet to hear.
The state of Israel was founded as a colonial settler project. If you have never heard this before I’d be shocked to learn you’re from anywhere but the US
Hamas has had genocide in its charter since it’s establishment.
I mean that’s not what they’re talking about (they’re just being a bigot), but this is just an escalation of the genocide that started in 1967.
I’m not sure that’s what he meant. @mwguy could you clarify about Israels multi-decade long commitment to genocide? You’re not a bigot either, right MW?
It’s weird because I read that comment as saying hamas is motivated by its founding desire to eradicate Israel. Everyone else seems to be reading as Israel is motivated to destroy or takeover Palestine. Both are pretty genocidal atm tho. Poor civilians trapped in the middle.
Interesting. I guess we’ll have to see what he says!
Tiny Pizza, Has has had a multi-decades long commitment to genocide. My whole life Hamas has been calling for the murder of every Jew on the planet consistently.
Really? How many did they kill?
As many as they’ve been able too. They went from stonings to gunfights to suicide bombers to rocket artillery to paraglider slave raids in my lifetime.
My whole life I’ve seen them dedicate more and more firepower to explicitly killing civilians
If Hamas is based in Qatar why are they bombing hospitals and refugee camps in Gaza?
Hamas top leadership is in Quatar. They’re insulated from the society they’ve created.
So the “wipe out hamas” operation is actually just a collective punishment for an organisation that they dont even think is based in Gaza. Glad you’re willing to admit that
There’s an estimated 40,000 strong Hamas army in the Gaza strip. That army has leaders and infrastructure on the ground in the Strip and was used to attack Israel on their big attack.
Eliminating the ability for that army to conduct operations is Israel’s goal. Just because their (Hamas) top political and military leaders are based in Quatar doesn’t mean Hamas isn’t in the Gaza Strip.
So no, it’s not an organization based outside of Gaza.
Was this also a failed Hamas rocket?
You mean the rocket that the New York Times investigation indicated didn’t actually hit the hospital?
Strange that the United States and Israel oppose an independent investigation into it…
Likely not. This hospital is pretty near the front lines and Israel claims that the ambulance was being used as a troop transport which was slyly confirmed by a hospital official claiming that it was a miracle that no staff were injured in the attack. That would also explain how Israel could confirm it was being used as a troop transport too.
Wow, amazing work. Interestingly there was also a bit where the movements of this ambulance medivac convoy was so widely covered and disseminated that even garbage outlets like WSJ were reporting on it 4 hours before it ever left the hospital, in an article called “Ambulance Convoy to Move Patients From Northern Gaza to Egypt Border, Health Ministry Says”. Slyly, Hamas even notified the Israeli government of the exact street and route they would be taking. Man, Israel is so next level, to an amateur like me none of this even makes sense. They are gooooooood.
