It’s Official: With “Vermin,” Trump Is Now Using Straight-up Nazi Talk He’s telling us what he will do to his political enemies if he’s president again. Is anyone listening?
I feel pretty safe in saying that we can now stop giving him the benefit of that particular doubt. His use—twice; once on social media, and then repeated in a speech—of the word “vermin” to describe his political enemies cannot be an accident. That’s an unusual word choice. It’s not a smear that one just grabs out of the air. And it appears in history chiefly in one context, and one context only.
Trump Is Now Using Straight-up Nazi Talk
So, the situation remains unchanged.
I remember pointing out that trump was using Nazi rhetoric during his ‘16 campaign.
The number of people that argued with me about how it was an exaggeration. Makes me want to scream.
Anyone who says he wasn’t is willfully ignorant so they don’t have to admit they support facism, or unironically ignorant and falling victim to what facism does best: take advantage of the uneducated
They weren’t the sorts of people to listen to his rallies, etc. Mostly just caught the highlights and sound bites. So when rhetoric started they were mostly… unwilling to accept that. it was just… inconceivable.
I feel we are experiencing Cassandra Syndrome.
The dude bragged about how he had mein keimf on his bedstand.
Him and Desantis both studied hitler and wannabe him.
I am not fan of Desantis but never heard he said he was into “Mein Kampf”. Where did you learn if this?
Not of the book. But I heard he studied history in college, and basically he is basically using the same playbook pre-WW2 nazi germany was doing.
yeah.
though it was probably the picture version for the hitler youth kids.
Slightly. Trump seems to be ramping up the rhetoric. He’s getting more and more comfortable emulating Nazi speech. And each step along the way, the media normalizes it by reporting “oh, that wacky Trump said something crazy again!”
At this rate, he’ll be posting in September 2024 about a final solution to rid this country of his political enemies and all Jews and the NYT will report “Trump Puts Forward Plan To Unite Washington.”
He’s been using Nazi talk since day one. “Fake news” is the most glaring example, which is just the most recent take on Lügenpresse.
And that was an actual term before he co-opted it. It would refer to the random blogs that claimed to be news sites that would post laughably false articles with doctored photos and completely made up quotes.
There was stuff with Hillary saying things that she literally never said, but it was “reporting” that she said it. The minor right wing sites would then cite these articles and the major right wing organizations would quote them. It would be proven false (easily) but by then they had moved onto the latest thing Hillary “did” (according to these sites).
Trump took this very useful term and twisted it into “anything I don’t like is fake.”
Thank you, it drives me batty that it’s become so hard to discuss the problems of actual fake news, much of which benefits Trump and needs to be called out, without people thinking we’re MAGA conspiracy loons.
But also, I kind of chuckled, because your use of past tense made it sound like those things don’t happen anymore, rather than being the cornerstone of right wing media today.
Thank you, it drives me batty that it’s become so hard to discuss the problems of actual fake news, much of which benefits Trump and needs to be called out, without people thinking we’re MAGA conspiracy loons.
But also, I kind of chuckled, because your use of past tense made it sound like those things don’t happen anymore, rather than being the cornerstone of right wing media today.
Thank you, it drives me batty that it’s become so hard to discuss the problems of actual fake news, much of which benefits Trump and needs to be called out, without people thinking we’re MAGA conspiracy loons.
But also, I kind of chuckled, because your use of past tense made it sound like those things don’t happen anymore, rather than being the cornerstone of right wing media today.
I’m sure Trump’s spokesman will walk back the Nazi talk…
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Trump spokesperson Steven Cheung said of anyone who compares Trump to Hitler or Mussolini that, “their entire existence will be crushed when President Trump returns to the White House”
So they’re just doubling down on the Nazi then.
Do not call me a Nazi. The next person to call me a Nazi is the first one I’m throwing in the camp.
The dude looks like a fucking thumb. No wonder he’s a nazi.
Yeah they are Nazis.
Anyone still unclear to the concept? This is his play book, his manual. Nothing else. If you don’t recognize it, shame on you and your history teacher.
In 1923, Hitler and his supporters attempted a coup in Bavaria. This seminal event was later called the Beer Hall Putsch. Upon its failure, Hitler escaped, only to be subsequently arrested and put on trial. The trial proved to be a blessing in disguise for Hitler, as it garnered him national fame. Hitler was sentenced to five years in prison, but he would only serve eight months. During this time, Hitler wrote Mein Kampf, which became the vade mecum of National Socialism. Once released, Hitler switched tactics, opting to instead seize power through legal and democratic means.
So… fuck…
Yep. There was something about people who don’t know history are bound to repeat it’s mistakes.
And then some people read history and think repeating its mistakes is a great idea.
Orange boy can’t even sign his name in the right place.
He could record videos, though
He’s too old for all that, but good news everybody! Trump isn’t the real threat anyhow – he’s the carnival barker. The real threat is the organised group of fascists who have been working hard on all the plans and slogans he claims as his. People like Steven Miller, Bannon, Stone, and some members of Congress.
They’re younger, smarter, and more determined than trump to replace democracy with their authoritarian utopia. They’ll find another front man when trump is gone.
Yeas, but thank goodness Trump is a senior citizen. He’s really only doing this to keep his fatass out of prison.
He is not a mastermind, and I still believe his health will fail sooner than we expect.
I mean, the only book he’s known to possess is one with Hitler’s speeches.
Is this an established fact? If so, that’s quite interesting.
His entire existence is a Nazi dog whistle.
Almost kinda worse, if that’s possible.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Donald_Trump
The man is completely empty of any significant value systems. He just does what works for him. Currently he’s obviously calculating that being a nazi works.
Sure, but it’s worth noting that it’s now just a regular whistle.
At this point it’s a fucking vuvuzela.
He also said upon reelection that he’d oust government officials not loyal to him and immediately begin deporting mass waves of people, including those living in the US legally.
Trump doesn’t care about government employees defending the constitution, he wants government employees loyal to HIM. If Trump had enough people like this last time the United States democracy would be over.
Stop voting for Republicans. They are un-American and don’t believe in our democracy.
Glad we are not on reddit so I can say this here:
We need to bring guillotines back to use on people like Trump
As someone who came here from Ukraine in 76, that concerns me
Is anyone listening?
Yes, his base is, and they love it.
That’s exactly it, and this is also why the media CONSTANTLY “discovering” that Trump is a Nazi is just signal boosting his campaign content.
Maybe in another eight years they will move on from “dae notice that Trump is a racist fascist Nazi?” And instead start saying “don’t vote for racist fascist Nazis, do this instead.”
People have been talking about the unindicted traitor since J6 and the media pretends Nazis hushing up means no one is talking about it. Anyone still pretending he’s a legitimate candidate for office has their head up their ass.
He was elected once and I hate to say it but there’s still a chance he’ll be elected again. He isn’t legitimate in the sense that he has no sense of decorum or history or human decency but he could be elected.
The guy is facing like dozens of criminal charges. How can someone like that run for presidency in the first place?
Innocent until proven guilty. It’s important to remember that.
However, I’d argue the President of the United States should be held to a higher standard than merely “not convicted.”
Hasn’t he now said things in open court multiple times that would be taken as direct admissions coming from anyone else?
I’m civil court. I don’t think he’s testified in any criminal cases yet. Maybe I’m wrong.
I’m civil court
Nice to meet you
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Guys, what else do you say to anthropomorphic personifications?
Not today.
WE WILL BE BACK TOMORROW, COME BINKY.
Wouldn’t matter, as long as it’s entered in open court it’s admissable as evidence.
Statements in civil court are admissible. He is allowed to take the 5th if it concerns criminal activity, it’s just a bad thing because in civil court the worst is assumed of what was asked.
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Ironically it’s generally just that felons can’t vote. There is some understandablility for not making felons unable to run for office, in theory it could be used as a political tool.
It’s an easily exploitable human rights violation for that as is, which is why all the shithole states are making various forms of protest a felony.
Agreed
They should be able to vote too. Felonizing minorities is a real thing that’s been going on since 1865.
I agree
Case in point: The QAnon Shaman is running for a US Senate seat. Seriously. He wants to be a legislator in the building that he was sent to prison for physically attacking.
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I strongly disagree. Being convicted of a felony is far easier than you may think. It is still a felony in many states to possess weed, to give only one example. It is too susceptible to being used for political persecution.
In fact, it already is used for that purpose since convicted felons can’t vote in most states. The entire purpose of the war on drugs was political persecution.
There aren’t laws because we don’t want the government to be able to just imprison any opposition. There is however a Constitutional rule about government officials who lead insurrections. I’m excited for all the Constitutionalists to just ignore that though.
you said it yourself. He’s FACING criminal charges. He hasn’t been convicted of anything. Remember in America you’re innocent until PROVEN guilty. You’ve made up your mind about him, but the law hasn’t, yet…
Sounds like you’ve made up your mind on Trump 😂 just another in denial
IDGAF about Trump to be honest. He’s a crook along with the rest of them. The whole government is as fucked as the fanboys that pant over what side is right.
That’s an interesting use of the word “now”.
Used to, still does too.
Also reminiscent of the Rwandan genocide, when the slaughtered Hutu were called cockroaches.
He’ll be borrowing “human animals” from the Israeli government soon.
Excuse me we already have a Vermin candidacy. Trump’s gonna have to get something else.
Man-thing me sad-depressed that this not good vermin running for man-president.
Every time I think it can’t get worse… This fucker is a pro. I need to stop underestimating him. Speed-run to fascism in less than a decade.
The dominoes have been getting set up since the 70s. Just because it looks fast once they start getting knocked over doesn’t mean there hasn’t been extensive prep in getting there.
I mean we do have the internet now so it makes sense things are at least a smidgen faster Maybe if you account for that variable the Nazis had approximately the same timeline?
Since we all seem to know where this is headed, could we all chip in on a Kickstarter to get Trump a bunker, just to be sure that ball’s rolling?
I’d prefer the Boulangist ending tbqh.
From chess?
Yes, the controversial ending move where your king flees off the board when the pawns turn against him, and shoots himself.
