Italy bans cultivated meat products::New law prohibits the production or sale of cultivated meat in Italy, with fines of up to €60,000

    • webghost0101@sopuli.xyzEnglish
      2·
      10 months ago

      Which means if they allowed cultured meat then surely there gonna be companies trying to find the maximum legal allowed they can add to call it parma.

      Honestly, i am a big fan of proper tasting cruelty free labgrown meat and i cant wait till it gets cheap. I Believe quality might succeed what the average consumer can get now. I am just putting myself in the hide of a conservative Italian lawmaker per exercise.

    • barsoap@lemm.eeEnglish
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      10 months ago

      Holsteiner Katenschinken also allows the pigs to be from anywhere, but the whole curing process has to be done in Schleswig-Holstein. They could’ve went ahead and said that the origin of the pigs is crucial to its quality and very likely gotten away with it, but they didn’t want to – Danish pigs are cheap and plentiful.

      That Parma doesn’t mandate that all the curing needs to be done there is their own fucking fault and probably greed – of big producers, that is, more interested in cheap labour than protecting local jobs.

      Honestly I wouldn’t be terribly surprised if in the future you’d see lab-grown DOP Katenschinken – the stuff has always been about the specific curing method, enabled by our microclimate. The strict ingredient and process regulations will continue (including mandating that a lot of stuff needs to be done by hand) but if synthetic raw ham achieves a quality to what they’re using now heck why not.

      Side note: Carbonara with Holsteiner Katenschinken and Holsteiner Tilsiter is way better than with guanciale/pancetta and pecorino. Also show me a charcoal maker who can afford fancy import ingredients, fancy local ingredients are just fine. As long as they don’t include cream, that is.

      • AnagrammadiCodeina@feddit.itEnglish
        1·
        10 months ago

        It’s like saying that fish and chips is better using shrimps. Its not the same anymore, it may be better, but not a carbonara.

        • barsoap@lemm.eeEnglish
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          10 months ago

          Shrimps are not fish. Holsteiner Katenschinken is cured pig, Holsteiner Tilsiter is cheese.

          Also, no, your argument is completely invalid for another reason: guanciale/pancetta and pecorino was not how the dish was created: It was created by half-starving Italians trading GIs for their ham and cheese provisions, then adding egg and pasta. Only after that, after they truly and actually ate carbonara made with of all things American ham and processed cheese, after the economy had recovered, did Italians nerd out as usual and decide on what would be the best type of meat and cheese to use for the recipe – but, fatally, they did not know about Holstein DOP products, they restricted their search to Italy. And that’s how they made, and continue to make, the grave mistake of thinking they found the ultimate meat and cheese for carbonara. Or rather two of them you can’t even agree among yourselves, one will deny that a carbonara can be made with pancetta, another that it can be made with guanciale.

          Next up let me tell you about my recipe for Ragout Bolognese which I can just as well call Bourguignon, depending on which nation I want to argue with today. No to only a tiny bit of tomato, btw (depending on the acidity of the wine).

          • AnagrammadiCodeina@feddit.itEnglish
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            10 months ago

            What is today a traditional carbonara? Eggs, guanciale, pecorino, Pepper, salt, water, pasta (and not all kind of paste)

            Then if you want to male variation, better for you.

            In my country we fight between cities about what is a Focaccia pomodoro mozzarella Pizzetta Pizza rossa

            And they are all basically the same.

            BTW we use guanciale for the very high fat content , what you are using is lower in fat, it looks like speck, different flavor