“It’s called precedent,” the Senate Judiciary Committee chair said of violating the same rule that Republicans ignored to move forward with judicial nominees.

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    It’s about time Dems started using the same tactics the GOP uses. Whiny hypocrites can’t stand when the tables are turned.

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      Still I understand why they hesitate. It basically drags our government permanently into shitty behavior. This is why they don’t start this stuff but reluctantly utilize it. You don’t want to be known as the guy going for the balls but if that is how the opponent is going to fight whelp then I guess we are ballers.

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        This is a good opportunity to do it, and very calculated. Skipping the discussion portion would have no impact as it wouldn’t have changed the vote, and it’s the third discussion, so two already occurred. Its a “safe” way to demonstrate rules can’t be dodged by one side.

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        I think until anyone in government sees consequences of their actions then nothing will change. If it’s used against them, maybe they’ll help legislate against it

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        Holy cow! Is that where the term ballers comes from? I did not know that. I kinda assumed it was about pro basketball players, in reference to their wealth and success.

        I get to reevaluate so much pop culture now.

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    When Blackburn said again she wanted to talk, Cotton interjected, “Now I guess Sen. Durbin is not going to allow women to speak either. I thought that was sacrosanct in your party!”

    Man, they thoroughly do not understand equality.

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      They understand. They just know if they say the shitty thing, it will give their bubba voters a misogyny hardon, which translates directly to votes.

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        I don’t get it: are they saying that their party doesn’t let women speak and now Democrats are acting like them? It seems extremely backwards.

        The question is mostly rhetorical, I understand exactly what’s happening, I just can’t help but jackie_chan_face.jpg

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          They are saying, “women dumb, lololol!” They’re literally just petty children in adult bodies. There is no deeper point.

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          It’s not about that. It’s about stuff like Clearance Thomas does. He used to be a black panther fighting for black rights(was still a misogynist creep). Then he eventually switched sides, prob for money and power, but claimed the Dems were just as racists as Republicans, but Republicans said it to your face and Dems hid behind a facade.

          The right continously parrots this narrative (which definitely has a kernel of truth especially with NIMBYs) in an effort to either discourage voter participation or to get lucky and get Pick Mes like Thomas and Candence Owen’s.

          Same reason idiots claim Trump says it like it is; they think everyone really is as racist and sexist as themselves, but that Dems are just virtue signaling while their side is “honest.” They don’t want to change, learn, or hide, they just want their shitty beliefs to be mainstream again.

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    “Cotton got so mad he started talking about himself in the third person.

    “Mr. Cotton says the chairman needs to rethink his decision,” said Cotton, as his name came up in the roll call. “That’s what Mr. Cotton says.””

    Lmao imagine getting you mad about the same tactics you supported, that you refer to yourself in the 3rd person.

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    That’s weird. When the right is gaslighting others about injecting deeply radical activist judges into the system, they claim that judges should just be calling balls and strikes and so on. And now they are screaming about what are most likely center-right judges, LOL.

    The butthurt is strong with the GOP, that’s for sure.

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      Once you realize that they don’t give a damn about the rules you know how to deal with them.

      Vote all of them out.

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    I kind of wish everyone who set foot in that room was fitted with a device that electrically zaps them every time they say some disingenuous bullshit. It’s always so uncomfortable to watch, and they know exactly what they’re doing.

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    I reject modern political labels but would say I lean slightly right. Over the years I’ve wrote to many of our politicians but Mr. Durbin is the only one who actually gave me the time of day, and for that he has my respect.

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      Same, actually. He’s the only office I’ve gotten a response from that shows my letter was actually read. Everyone else just sends the generic canned reply back.

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      Why should Dems follow all the rules when repubs don’t? If anyone cares about the rule, they should have punished the previous committee leaders even though they have an R by their name.

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        The same reason Dems should do a SHITLOAD of things differently than the Republicans: because they’re better and more honest or at least pretending to be.

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                They’re not being taken advantage of. They’re CHOOSING to not use powers they legitimately have in order to protect their owner donors from what they, the Dem leadership, say in public that they want to do.

                Like back when they “had to” take the minimum wage increase that the vast majority of the population wants out of the infrastructure bill because one unelected bureaucrat didn’t think it was a budget item 🙄

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        Nobody’s shooting them for allowing debate. It’s not a binary where they have to either allow Republicans to obstruct endlessly or eliminate debate completely.

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            after Chairman Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) held votes on two of President Joe Biden’s judicial nominees without allowing debate on them

            Were these two opportunities for other nominees? You know that different people aren’t interchangeable, right? 🤦

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      Well…a wrong is a negative thing. Two wrongs would be a double negative. A double negative is a positive and a positive thing is a right. Therefore two wrongs do in fact make a right. (Please note: I don’t believe this and an just using words recreationally)

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        Careful about using words recreationally, that shit can be habit-forming!

        Sincerely, wordplay addict and loving it 😁

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    This does not make me happy.

    This is why using precedent and RROO is bad mojo for US American parliamentarianism. Very few act in good faith for a legal fiction that is the United States of America. And when the leader, the person in The Office Of The President, acts in bad faith we are fucked for generations if not permanently.

    Now the representatives are abandoning their structure and tradition because the other side did, too.

    We are done here.

    The Hard Left needs to consider revolution.

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      I doesn’t make me happy either, it’s also the right thing for them to do in the circumstance. They can’t pretend as though things didn’t change, as consequences of the recent decades of Republican treachery.

      It’s tough to see a way out.

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        Though tempted to view these breaches of precedent by Republicans in isolation, I have to remind myself that the reasons they wanted to do so and got away with it are systemic. I mean, years ago, some of these things might have resulted in pressure from their own constituents. The Republicans have been chipping away at everything for decades to sculpt the nation into a shape that enables them to act with impunity. You can trace the progression in Congress starting with, say, Newt Gingrich. It’s like an abusive sociopath overstepping boundaries little by little until they’re in complete control.

        That said, there was a time when politics broke out in fist fights. Thinking long term, it may not always be like this. But we can’t expect a single election, or mere voting, to fix this.

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          You’re absolutely correct, they’ve been working hard at creating this situation. I think the left will need to get mean for anything to change, maybe this is a step in that direction.