Oh, AutoDesk…you have such a way with words. Honestly, I would rather learn to design in OpenSCAD than send AutoDesk a single penny.
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Like others have said, Autodesk is a piece of shit company that continues to be customer hostile. They pulled the rug out from underneath users years ago with F360.
FreeCAD is a good alternative. A lot of people complain about the UI polish, and complain that models break. I’ll admit that the UI isn’t as polished as commercial software like F360 or SolidWorks. However, it’s just as easy to break models in SolidWorks as it is in FreeCAD. I’ve been using 3D CAD for over 20 years, and it’s always been a problem. Even with all of my experience, I still have to fix references that get broken as I make design changes. The more you use 3D CAD, the less you run into situations like this because you’re able to think ahead and avoid them. Talk to any experienced CAD user and they’ll tell you the same thing.
The workflows of FreeCAD are just like commercial software for most functions. There are definitely features that commercial software has that FreeCAD doesn’t, but that’s where you have to make the judgement about whether it’s worth it to pay for it.
For me, I’ll continue to use FreeCAD for my personal projects. I use SolidWorks at work, but we have different demands there, and it’s worth the company paying the maintenance for it.
Just so nobody fires up freecad thinking they’re about to get a commercial experience:
FreeCAD sucks. It works. But it sucks. There’s basically no community. Development is fractured and slow. Some workflows that are trivial in solid works are tedious in freecad.
But it works. And it’s foss. If you need something that runs on Linux, it’s the way to go.
I use FreeCAD exclusively, and while it does have several aspects about it that still suck, I have to say that it’s has improved dramatically by the current release (0.21.1, I think) versus when I started using it which was around 0.18.
I have definitely found the workflow for certain operations to be a bit obtuse, but I’ve never actually had it been unable to do whatever I was trying to accomplish, ultimately, somehow in some way.
I’ll take FreeCAD’s quirks and foibles over any type of predatory subscription, licensing, or cloud only bullshit AutoDesk or Solidworks or whoever the hell else is up to. Any day, any time.
I also started using it around that time. And I agree with everything you said except the part where said it’s improved dramatically. It’s improved, yes, but I would call those improvements minimal, not dramatic, especially considering it’s taken five years to accomplish them.
I don’t know, I think the tree dependency fix in 0.2 was pretty huge. The rest of the stuff I can pretty much take or leave, including all the new toolbar icons which wasted who knows how many man-hours that probably could have been better spent elsewhere… But not having all my parts bork themselves because god forbid I modified a feature at the top of the tree rather than the bottom made using FreeCAD go from exhausting to use to actually properly functional – at least for me.
Disagree. I thought freecad was awesome. But I didn’t use it professionally…just as a hobbyist teaching myself cad.
The most frustrating thing for me was the changes between versions and finding the right tutorial to match your version was frustrating.
It’s the equivalent of gimp vs Photoshop.
This is my experience too. It’s like people repeating 20 years of Gimp vs Photoshop.
Onshape is another alternative. Even runs on Linux too!
While you are not wrong, I personally wouldn’t consider it unless there was a “buy it for a fixed price option”. Subscription only unless it’s for personal use. Oh and it is Cloud only
Dune 3D is a newer tool built specifically for 3D printing design.
It appears to be built specifically for designing electronics enclosures with 3D printing in mind. I’m sure it’s a great utility, and I don’t mean to argue to no end, but to me a tool built specifically for 3D printed design would have core functionality which offers layer line alignment and orientation, custom and customizable internal structure (what we call “fill”), and a parametric engine to adjust the design and internal structure based on layer and nozzle thickness. While these are all currently slicer-like functions, slicers are absolute trash at being able to customize a part for strength, stiffness, and failure mode selection. (Yes, I’m a structural engineer - I actually do know about these things and design for them - usually being at odds with the slicer over just such effects)
Anyway - I’m sure Dune3D comes in handy for its designer’s purpose, and I’ll probably file this for the next time I think about fighting a Pi case in CAD.
I just got this mail. They are very funny. It is clear that they are trying to generate money by adding features, but the whole point is that I don’t need more features.
I just need the program as it is, hell, they can still take more functionality away and it will still work for me just fine. I just use it for small projects, maybe twice a year.
If the free version ever goes away, I’ll just learn some other program. There might be a learning curve, but I don’t mind.
And I understand that they need to make money, and they have every right to charge whatever they want. But mails like this make them look desperate for cash.
If they really don’t want too, don’t have a free product. Then everybody knows what is up.
I worked in architecture.Autodesk certainly doesn’t need any more money. Their subscriptions are amazingly expensive.
FreeCad is petty epic for home projects. It took me about a month to transition from SolidWorks but now I’m a big fan
This is why I will continue putting up with FreeCAD.
There’s a newer project called Dune 3D
It was built specifically for 3D printing in mind.
To be honest, I prefer SolveSpace. It’s significantly simpler and lacks a lot of features FreeCAD has, but it doesn’t crash and does just enough for me to be able to design whatever I need for 3D printing.
I think they both have their advantages. I found SolveSpace a lot more flexible with how you can create constraints. In FreeCAD constraining a line in proportion to another line is AFAIK impossible but at least not at all intuitive in FreeCAD but it’s quite easy in SolveSpace.
Of course. But I find myself reaching towards SolveSpace almost exclusively when I need CAD, than FreeCAD. Perhaps because my tasks are lighter.
In Germany we call it Hassliebe and it describes perfectly what i have with freecad (stupid import an stl way)
I recently made the switch to Linux, and since fusion360 doesn’t support Linux I’ve been using Onshape. Boy do I miss fusion. I certainly wouldn’t pay $600 a year for it though since I only use it for personal projects.
Getting fusion360 running on linux is 10 seconds of google. It works perfectly fine and i use it for without any hiccups.
Method 1: Get Bottles and use the provided installer inside that.
Method 2: Use this script
When I was testing this a couple of years ago it seemed to break every couple of months though, and part of the game was Autodesk was actively detecting Linux installs and borking them. Has that changed?
As I said. It works flawless and without hiccups
This isn’t the personal use version. That one is still free.
What do you find that you miss the most? I’ve considered trying onshape but I don’t really like cloud based software (yes, I know F360 is semi cloud based).
My last couple of parts I designed in Designspark Mechanical, which I gather is a nerfed Spaceclaim. Closedf source and Windows only, and I guess that they’ve been pissing off their users too, but by removing features rather than trying to directly extort money. The reason I went with it though, is because despite being full of its own issues, it still allows commercial use with the free subscription/download.
The most likely scenario is that I never make a single dollar from my hobbies, but it’s nice that if I were to somehow stumble into something that a few people wanted to pay for, I wouldn’t owe Autodesk any money. The direct modeling also makes sense for my TinkerCAD/woodworking brain. I have tried FreeCAD and found the learning curve daunting.
I’ve been paying like 10/mo for solidworks.
SolidWorks is cheap for noncommercial and is the only package that I know of that still offers a permanent license for commercial work.
There is also Solid Edge noncommercial if you are doing 3D printing around the house.
