• twistedtxb@lemmy.ca
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    The fact that wine and beer bottles are exempt from those Nutrition Facts labels is utter nonsense.

    If people knew how much sugar and calories are in their drink maybe they would think twice

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      There are nutrition labels on alcohol in Europe, but people there drink as much as here.

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        Europe drinks way more alcohol than North America

        Excerpt from the article:

        If you feel that Europeans drink a lot, your hunch is correct: people across the continent consume more alcohol than in any other part of the world. Each year in Europe, every person aged 15 and over consumes, on average, 9.5 litres of pure alcohol, which is equivalent to around 190 litres of beer, 80 litres of wine or 24 litres of spirits. That’s according to the 2021 European health report by the World Health Organization (WHO).

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      I was drinking a while claw with my mother-in-law, and reflected that 100 calories was pretty good.

      She responded she preferred her normal vodka sodas because they have 0 calories…

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    Meanwhile cannabis beverages are required to have:

    -Nutrition facts including calories, sugar, etc.

    -Gigantic yellow warning with random health warning (e.g., don’t use if pregnant)

    -Huge red stop sign cannabis leaf logo

    -KEEP OUT OF REACH OF CHILDREN

    -Big pain in the ass plastic childproof thing

    None of these required on a can of beer.

    From a harm reduction perspective, it’s a massive failure. Many cannabis beverages have very low nearly zero calories, sugar-free. For your physical health they are almost certainly less harmful than alcohol and I know many people would enjoy them as an alternative to alcohol.

    We have faced a similar failure in harm reduction strategy regarding vaping versus tobacco. I think in both cases it’s a result of vested interests (tax revenue, lobbying, don’t know) trumping what is best for people.

  • Mugmoor@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Because those health warnings are meaningless to begin with. We know it’s bad for us, we don’t need a nanny state to hold our hands at the same time.

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      We know it’s bad for us

      You have the knowledge in the back of your mind. The warnings make you have it in active thought.

      we don’t need a nanny state

      Do you truly believe consumers usually/always make rational and reasonable decisions, that don’t go against their own interests?

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        You have the knowledge in the back of your mind. The warnings make you have it in active thought.

        What kind of manipulative power trip behavior control bullshit logic is this?

        Do you truly believe consumers usually/always make rational and reasonable decisions, that don’t go against their own interests?

        Who the fuck cares? I decide how I live my life. If you want to wear bubble wrap and consume nothing but distilled water and unflavored soy bean paste so you can totally live forever and never need medical treatment, have at.

        I’d rather live.

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            I would rather my government spend my tax dollars solving real problems, not creating hoops for companies to jump through so people can ignore them (which is your narrative, in reality, it is intended to stagmatize the product and the people who consume the product and try to shame them into stopping).

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              That’s false, these warnings are successful ib preventing people from consuming the drug and therefore directly decreasing healthcare costs for society.

              In fact, some countries pursue it even further, mandating bland packaging for cigarettes. This is especially effective in preventing minors from smoking.

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                Sounds like our are adept “ib” being a giant fascist tool who relishes the idea of getting some degenerates to stop drinking an smoking. Like savages.

  • RagingNerdoholic@lemmy.ca
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    In fairness, cigarettes contain known carcinogens. You are ripping apart your DNA with every dart. Can the same be said for having a few drinks a week?

    I say this as someone who’s never taken a single drag or had even a drop of alcohol (cooking notwithstanding).

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    And coffee, and butter, and sugar, and artificial sweeteners, and cannabis, and cars.,. prohibition is stupid. Mind your own fucking business. Stop trying to control others.

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        Alright, if that is true, and its not a baby step towards prohibition, let me fill you in on it. We fucking know and we don’t fucking care.

        Stop wasting government time and resources on empty soapboxing.

        We know what the propaganda says.

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          Slippery slope fallacy. Also a lot of people actually don’t know that alcohol causes cancer and heart disease as well as homicide, etc. A lot of gullible people drink it because they are socially led to believe that it’s OK or perhaps even necessary, but these are not thinking or informed people. The fact that you call legitimate health information about alcohol “propaganda” shows that you’re not really in the “know” camp, doesn’t it?

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      Artificial sweeteners are very safe and sugar is carbohydrates, which you almost need for energy and a healthy diet. Coffee and butter is also quite safe.

      But alcohol and tobacco? Any amount is harmful. Warnings wouldn’t be unreasonable for people to make more informed decisions. You’d be surprised at how many think alcohol is harmless. And its stuff you quite literally don’t need to live.

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        You clearly don’t follow the news and aren’t very educated on the topic of carcinogens.

        Artificial Sweeteners are being found to be carcinogenic. Sugar causes obesity and diabetes. Coffee is addictive and causes vascular disorders. Butter causes high cholesterol and heart attacks.

        Tobacco and alcohol have no notable adverse impacts for at least 20 to 40 years (unless you drink to the point of alcohol poisoning, that is immediate).

        You clearly aren’t interested in knowledge or having a productive conversation. You just want to do the propagandist prohibitionist circlejerk.