The new bill comes after Andrew Bailey vowed to investigate companies pulling business from X, formerly Twitter over hate speech.

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    That sounds like the government is trying to interfere with free speech and the free market.

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      Definitely. Republicans are big fans of “let the market decide” and big opponents of “big government dictating what companies should do” until the market decides against them. Then, suddenly, the Republicans are big fans of the government deciding what companies should do and opponents of the free market.

      The levels of hypocrisy never fail to amaze me.

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    Setting aside constitutional issues, think about how insane and delusional you have to be to decide that the fact that a significant number of people are protesting your policies means that protesting needs to be prohibited punished.

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      Bill Text: https://www.senate.mo.gov/24info/pdf-bill/intro/SB1061.pdf

      It doesn’t prohibit protesting, it basically says that if you engage in “economic boycott” (a term which about a third of the bill is spent defining) then the State of Missouri cannot use you as a vendor, and any contracts with them are null and void.

      So less prohibiting protesting and more not buying stuff from protesters. Probably still a 1A violation, though from an odd enough angle I’m not sure.

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        Well, according to the Citizens United decision, corporations are people and money is speech, so a company deciding with who they’re going to spend money is protected speech.

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        Wonder how that would work out given the number of firearms vendors that actively boycott liberal things like budlight. Police departments are going to be all outta ammo.

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        Sounds like the anti-BDS laws. Somehow that’s a thing, and I’m not sure how that’s even allowed.

        Also, I was amused that BDS also stands for “Biden Derangement Syndrome”. In the years before Denver Post closed their comments, they ramped their censorship way up and for some reason “BDS” would trigger their nanny-filter. I’m supposing even the mention of the boycott of Israel was bridge too far for the nannies at Denver Post.

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      “Well, it brings the subject into view and we hate hearing about it (cry harder, libs!) so we’ll just stop people from doing the thing that brings it into view and annoys us.” - conservative snowflakes, probably

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    “No one should be forced to bake a cake for a gay wedding.” “No company should be allowed to refuse to give another company millions of dollars a month in advertising income just because they began vocally supporting nazism”

    These are two thoughts that simultaneously bounce around in GOP politicians’ heads. They seem to be contradictory ideas until you realize that they are simply ALWAYS in favor of harming the right people and do not give the slightest shit about applying the same rules to everyone if those rules harm the wrong people.

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      The only principle the GOP has is whatever they think will win them the current argument. Asking for any ideological consistency from them is tilting at windmills.

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      “No company should be allowed to refuse to give another company millions of dollars a month in advertising income just because they began vocally supporting nazism”

      This bill doesn’t do that. It just says that if you engage in “economic boycott” (which about a third of the bill is spent defining, but doesn’t include refusing to deal with a company for “vocally supporting nazism” unless you are using very nonstandard definitions of “vocally supporting” and “nazism”), the State of Missouri cannot use you as a vendor.

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    If a legislator tries to pass something so blatantly obviously against the constitution, they should be thrown in jail and barred from ever writing another law again.

    Yes, I know that’d put a lot of politicians in jail. Doesn’t that put a smile on your face, too?

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    A lot of people in the comments are saying how this won’t hold up or how unconstitutional it is but 35 fucking states have already passed anti-bds (boycotts, divestment*, and sanctions) laws that do the same thing as this bill but Israel. If the politicians are sufficiently bribed enough, they won’t care what the laws actually are.

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    How much you want to bet they’ll still be cool with a conservative business boycotting LGBT supporting businesses?

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        Yeah, that’s already a thing. New York, California, Florida, Missouri, and Illinois enforced their anti-boycott laws in 2018 against Airbnb when Airbnb said they would remove Israeli listings that were in areas where the land was taken from people. Airbnb stood to be completely forbidden from the largest economic markets in the United States at the behest of the Israeli strategic affairs minister Gilad Erdan.

        There’s been challenges to these kinds of laws like Arkansas Times LP v. Waldrip, but the State upheld the Legislation and SCOTUS refused to hear the case letting stand Arkansas’ ability to force all companies operating within the State to “stand with Israel” or face removal from any State program and anyone whom they did business with removal from State funds. Because that’s what happened with the Newspaper. The Newspaper itself had no contracts with the State, but those who advertised might and they would be prohibited from purchasing ad space in the newspaper.

        There’s Jordahl v. Brnovich where a lawyer was providing legal services in Coconino County, Arizona and was found by Arizona’s anti-boycott law with regards to Israel. Eventually appellate courts sided with the lawyer that such a ban on boycott’s was against the State’s Constitution, but Legislators eventually carved out an exception for legal firms and rendered all further cases moot before it could make it to the Supreme Court of Arizona.

        There’s Martin v. Wrigley where a filmmaker would not sign a pledge for State film making funding that they would not “boycott Israel” per the State of Georgia’s anti-boycott laws. In the US District Court for the Northern District of Georgia, the court ruled that the law was compelled speech. The State then amended the law to not apply to businesses under $100,000 rendering any final challenge moot. And any losses were indemnified as the State of Georgia claimed qualified immunity. In appeals, the Eleventh Circuit in a per curium that was unpublished affirmed the lower court’s ruling but did not rule on the full Constitutionality of the law. The Eleventh dropped the case completely in June of 2023.

        There’s Koontz v. Watson where a Mennonite church boycotted Israel and the State of Kansas required a math teacher who was a member of that church to sign an affidavit that she did not boycott Israel before she could attend a required teaching seminar. That one went really complicated, very long story short, the State carved out an exception in HB 2482 and the court’s dismissed the matter as moot. The Teacher was allowed to attend the training.

        And I could go on and on and on, because at the State level there are several legal challenges in pretty much every State to the various State laws that prohibit boycotting Israel. So yeah, on this “it’s already a thing” pretty much everywhere and we are nowhere near through enough court cases to get some final resolution on these kinds of “you cannot boycott Israel” laws. They’re likely going to be around for another ten to twenty years if we just keep chipping away at them via legal challenges.

        And that’s likely the success that Missouri is trying to get with this law. Get a good solid thirty or so years out of “you cannot boycott conservative values” and seed things into a new generation by force, since allowing people to measure these conservative values by their own accord isn’t working. But yeah, if this law passes, it’s golden for at least three decades or enough of Missouri’s Assembly changes to remove the law.

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        Many governmental entities will not contract with companies that “boycott Israel.”

        This, of course, is poorly defined. And is being litigated in Michigan, I believe.

        But the argument from regressive AGs is that boycott is not speech - it’s action, and therefore they are permitted to enforce a ban on that action.

        Pretty shit tier argument, and one that will probably bite them in the ass if there’s any chance of consistency from the supreme court (slim chance.)

        The hypocrisy is the point.

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          So money is speech and free if it’s used for political campaigns, but it’s not speech if you choose not to buy from or work for a specific country.

          I hate this world.

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    So that goes both ways, right? Right wing businesses can’t refuse to deal with companies just because they are “woke,” right?

    Time for someone to form Woke Antifa Rainbows, Inc and then sue right wing companies for refusing to do business with them.

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      It doesn’t actually, the law is written specifically to disallow people from boycotting companies that destroy the environment, hate LGBTQ, actively promote anti-LGBTQ ideals, etc., but it DOESN’T stop the alternate – the right can still boycott people who support LGBTQ rights, people who support working to fight climate change, etc. Just another one-sided law attempting to illegalize entirely legal business decisions by the left while allowing the right to continue saying it’s OK to deny people wedding cakes if you hate the gays.

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        I figured as much. When people (or companies) say “I don’t want to be associated with statements like this,” the right’s response depends on whose statements they are. If they are statements from the right, then it’s “cancel culture” and must be banned. If they are statements from the left, then it’s just Free Speech and no action against those saying it is allowed for any reason.

        It’s such an obvious double standard.

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        the law is written specifically to disallow people from boycotting companies that destroy the environment, hate LGBTQ, actively promote anti-LGBTQ ideals, etc., but it DOESN’T stop the alternate

        That’s correct! The law is written to be non-commutative. That is it works one way, but the lack of indicating the other, implicitly indicates that it is not true. Here are the sections from the bill.

        (a) Engages in the exploration, production, utilization, transportation, sale, or manufacturing of, fossil fuel-based energy, timber, mining, or agriculture;
        (b) Engages in, facilitates, or supports the manufacture, import, distribution, marketing or advertising, sale, or lawful use of firearms, ammunition or component parts and accessories of firearms or ammunition;
        © Does not meet, is not expected to meet, or does not commit to meet environmental standards or disclosure criteria, in particular to eliminate, reduce, offset, or disclose greenhouse gas emissions;
        (d) Does not meet, is not expected to meet, or does not commit to meet any specified criteria with respect to the compensation and composition of the company’s corporate board and the employees of the company;
        (e) Does not facilitate, is not expected to facilitate, or does not commit to facilitate access to abortion, sex or gender change, or transgender surgery or medical treatments;

        As you can see they are worded to have meaning in a single direction but aren’t reflexive in language. So this allows people to boycott the opposite of the above, but prohibits boycotting anything above.

        It’s literally a law compelling conservative belief. And they know it’s not going to survive a legal challenge, but they also know they’ll get something like two or three decades out it before being completely overturned. It’s literally a legislative Hail, Mary.

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    Missouri is the poorest and least consequential state in America. They have nothing at all to offer the country and have no say in anything that happens outside of their own shitty, unimportant borders. Even if this passes, it won’t matter. What companies are even HQd in Missouri?