• PugJesus@kbin.social
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    10 months ago

    lmao

    Imagine simping for the Taliban because international politics is a religion to you, and America is the Great Satan.

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      10 months ago

      Yeah America (specifically America) colonizing the country for 20 years and running it into the ground is definitely irrelevant here.

      Imagine dunking on them when 90% of the shit in this article is problems America created themselves.

      I don’t agree with them closing school for women and many other things, but the economic situation and starvation is 100% a result of American imperialism.

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        Yes, I am definitely sure it was all Amerikkka’s fault, Afghanistan definitely hasn’t always been a dirt poor country for the past 200 years and also definitely didn’t spent most of the 70s and all of the 80s and 90s locked in brutal civil wars, and definitely has a united national culture that made running a functional national government easy.

        Also I love the part where we were colonizing Afghanistan and dictating their internal policies. God, it’s so great that we thought Islam was so amazing that we made it a crime to apostatize from it. Wait, or are we supposed to be the Christian Crusaders imposing our faith on Muslim countries? I can never keep all the things we’re accused of doing straight.

        If you think the economic situation in Afghanistan is due to the US… well, that’s about the understanding of Afghanistan’s historical and present circumstances I expect from someone who treats international politics like a religion and says “Well, I don’t agree with the Taliban closing schools for women and ‘other things’, BUT… have you considered, America bad?”

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          You can keep turning in circles and do adhoms but the fact remains that America ruined Afghanistan the last 20 years. Before that it was the Russians.

          The current Afghanistan has been independent for a very little time and has inherited tonnes of problems from America ruining the country. The sanctions and aid restrictions also don’t help this.

          I’m not sure why you’d even begin to disagree with these facts but seeing as your entire comment doesn’t address then I can only guess.

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        Seems to me that with western money drying up due to not wanting to give cash to the Taliban, things are going back to what they were before the US invasion.

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          10 months ago

          Stealing 7 billion in assets isn’t “not wanting to give cash”. That’s their money.

          Before the last war the Russians screwed up the country and they were dealing with the after effects of that war. Now the Americans are leaving the country in the same war torn state and somehow blame it all on the Taliban. What are you trying to say exactly?

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            The US is under no obligation to give an enemy money held by the Federal Reserve. Also, the Taliban shares no blame for that war torn state? They weren’t exactly paragons of good governance last time either. Maybe if they spent more time working on economic development instead of executing thieves and beating women for going to school I’d be marginally less critical of their regime.

            I’m saying that the US naively tried and failed to nation build in Afghanistan. Trillions were spent on infrastructure and schools which was in hindsight a failure. Afghanistan was war torn before, during, and now after US occupation.

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        10 months ago

        You use the words ‘colonialism’ and ‘imperialism’ but don’t seem to know what they mean.

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          Colonialism is just the step beyond imperialism. America does imperialism all over the world but doesn’t colonize everything.

          America setting up tonnes of military bases, killing the government and then replacing and dictating the entire governance with their own peons means that it colonized Afghanistan, it didn’t just influence it.

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            America setting up tonnes of military bases, killing the government and then replacing and dictating the entire governance with their own peons means that it colonized Afghanistan, it didn’t just influence it.

            lmao