• Illecors@lemmy.cafe
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    1 year ago

    I see angry wankers want to moan for the sake of moaning.

    Eliminating smoking is a goos thing! I’ll take my wins whenever possible, doesn’t happen all that often.

    • evatronic@lemm.ee
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      1 year ago

      But but there are other things that are also bad and if one proposal doesn’t solve everything it is complete trash!!!

  • Guntrigger@feddit.ch
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    1 year ago

    Everyone here is arguing the benefits of prohibition. I’m just interested to know how much money Rishi (and/or his family members/friends/donors) have invested in vaping and nicotine alternatives.

    • Jojo@lemm.ee
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      1 year ago

      It always confuses me to learn that when people want to ban smoking it somehow means ban “cigarettes” and not “nicotine”

      • gmtom@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        Because smoking is WILDLY more harmful than vaping.

        Yes vaping has SOME health risks, but it’s like saying drinking tea and drinking four loko are just as bad because they both have caffeine

      • Son_of_dad@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        Well what’s wrong with nicotine? In itself it’s not worse than booze. It’s all the other crap they add that makes it so terrible

        • JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca
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          1 year ago

          Hi from the depths of a nicotine addiction and struggling to quit. Its a worthless chemical that gets more expensive everyday and my brain SCREAMS at me for a fix if I try to go more than even a few hours. At least heroin gets you high.

  • Sharp312@lemmy.one
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    1 year ago

    I feel we’ve done a good enough job at making smoking undesirable, effectively banning it is excessive. It would be better to focus on doing what was done to cigarettes to vapes. Kids arent smoking nearly as much but theyre vaping like mad. I see kids as young as 13-14 doing it. Vapes are allowed to look appealing, combine that with their nice smell and flavour, ofc young people are going to gravitate toward them instead.

    Make it so vape packaging is bland and has similar warnings as cigarretes, and actually teach kids about addiction instead of just a hard “dont touch these”. Everyone with a braincell knows that if you ban something from young people, theyre gonna do it more

    • yesdogishere@kbin.social
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      1 year ago

      the problem is there’s actually zero evidence vapes alone (without nicotine etc) do any harm. The vapes which the industry is moving towards is just largely the same as steamed and cooling water vapour. It’s totally harmless.

  • DigitalFrank@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    So we would eliminate smoking the same way we eliminated drug use…by making it illegal.

    /S if necessary

  • gencha@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    Smoking is redundant today. Kids are getting enough cancer from the environment already.

    • smellythief@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      It’s not redundant. Harms compound. It’s not like people max out their carcinogenic index or something. 🙄