• galloog1@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    When did they recognize Israel? They’ve offered it as part of negotiations but so has Israel offered Palestinian Starbucks as party of negotiations. Each side included unacceptable inclusions to the other.

    This may not seem like it but it is definitely a perfect example of a skewed and one sided narrative that this site is exposed to all the time.

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        9 months ago

        So, your argument is that an agreement by the prior state that was since rejected by the current one is the fault of the current administration which was elected in reaction to the failure of the prior Palestinian state and decent into terrorism invalidates all the reasons to terrorism coming out of the current Palestinian state? If that sounds confusing it’s because it is and it’s missing several hundred tit for tats that built up to the worst terrorist attack Israel has ever experienced. Reacting solely to that is also ignoring how things were progressively getting worse since the initial election of Hamas.

        The real issue is that the bias in the article you posted is self evident. It eliminates literally all the context around those decisions and includes only those decisions. A list of all the times that any Palestinian authority rejected the peace process without context would be just as biased but you won’t find one outside of official Israeli channels.

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          9 months ago

          No, my argument is that Israel has been in complete control of the Occupied Palestinian Territories since 1967, after the ethnic cleansing of 1948 and brutal military law enacted on the Palestinians since. Early Zionists like Ben Guerion and later the State of Israel have always coveted the whole land of Palestine and only wielded peace process as ways to further land grab. Not too dissimilar to what America did to the Native Americans.

          I’ve read a lot of other sources, this article is just pretty on-topic for the history of the ‘peace process’

          If you want to learn more from both official Israeli documents, accounts from Israeli military officials, Arab sources, and also oral history to get a more complete picture than just info from official Israeli channels try these books by Ilan Pappe. Try your local library or library Genesis for a copy.

          Books

          The Biggest Prison on Earth: A History of the Occupied Territories. London: Oneworld Publications. 2017. ISBN 978-1-85168-587-5. Archived from the original on 14 October 2023.

          Ten Myths About Israel. New York: Verso. 2017. ISBN 9781786630193

          https://mondoweiss.net/2018/01/examining-myths-israel/

          The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine (London and New York: Oneworld, 2006). ISBN 1-85168-467-0

          A History of Modern Palestine: One Land, Two Peoples (Cambridge University Press, 2004), ISBN 0-521-55632-5

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            9 months ago

            1948, a conflict started by Palistinian attacks on Jews that escalated to five nations invading Israel after they determined that the situation has escalated enough to require their own sovereignty. Sure, you aren’t leaving any information out. None at all.