• V17@kbin.social
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    11 months ago

    I’m not sure what else they’re supposed to do. After a terrorist attack like this one, I don’t really see any other option that would realistically be accepted by the government and the population other than attempting to wipe out Hamas completely. Israel is risking many lives of Israeli soldiers in order to reduce Palestinian civilian casualties by deciding to do a terribly difficult ground invasion instead of levelling Gaza to rubble, Grozny style. I don’t blame them for trying to make the situation at least a bit easier by blocking communication of all things.

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      11 months ago

      are you making the argument that the correct response to a terrorist attack is to genocide the people where the terrorists are based? because that’s what Israel is doing right now It doesn’t matter that they are Jews and have also suffered a genocide in their past. this is material, here and now, and happening. and you just argued for it.

      Israel is a powerful nation with all the options they can imagine on the table. If they can’t imagine another option then that’s on them.

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        Israel is a powerful nation with all the options they can imagine on the table. If they can’t imagine another option then that’s on them.

        You say that, but I don’t see any other way to remove the Hamas threat than what they’re doing. Is your argument just “Israel is all-powerful and they should find a different way even if we don’t see any!”?

        are you making the argument that the correct response to a terrorist attack is to genocide the people where the terrorists are based?

        What? I’m mentioning Grozny. Have you heard about Grozny? If you haven’t, maybe I understand how you could interpret my message in that way, though I still don’t think it makes sense. In the second Chechen war, this is what Grozny looked like after Russia was finished with it, most likely on false pretenses (putin faking appartment bombings around Russia and blaming it on Chechens). They simply turned it to rubble.

        Israel could do this and get away with it just like Russia did, and their reasons for attacking Hamas are more serious than reasons Russians had to attack Chechnya. Instead of doing that they chose to do a ground invasion, which will reduce the loss of civilian lives and infrastructure, despite the fact that it will dramatically increase the casualties on Israeli side.

        That is not genocide, that is deciding to avoid genocide in a situation where they could likely get away with it.

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          11 months ago

          I don’t see any other way to remove the Hamas threat than what they’re doing.

          Then you need to do better. They can use special ops. They can appeal to the Palestinian people. They can revise their foreign policy to not set these situations up in the first place (see the previous 20 years of Israeli policy towards Palestine).

          They arent’ targeting Hamas, they are targeting any Palestinian with a pulse. Right now, you are acting as an apologist for a genocide and you should seriously reconsider your position. It will not age well.