As of right now, you can follow either Lemmy accounts directly or follow Lemmy communities from Mastodon relatively easily if you know what you are searching for. This is really cool because you can read (and participate to !) discussions without having tu use a Lemmy-specific app or account. The wonders of the fediverse !
But the interaction through mastodon has a few issues, notably:
- Communities repost comments too, making the community feed unreadable
- Media in Lemmy posts are links, which make them quite cumbersome to watch (which is also the case in Lemmy itself ? I’m curious as to why) (minor problem)
- To my knowledge, you can’t post to a Lemmy community from Mastodon, but that’s to be expected I guess. (minor problem)
The discussions on Lemmy often are more interesting than over on mastodon but I prefer mastodon’s format so I am way more active over there. It would be way more pleasant to have everything in the same feed but because of 1. this isn’t possible at the moment.
So the question is: does anybody know if Lemmy can or will fix any of these issues, especially n°1 ? Or is this something to be fixed on Mastodon’s side ?
sry for English 🙃
OP, I’m pretty much the opposite. I like the way Lemmy feels and operates vs. Mastadon (I’m on both though) and so generally spend more time here. I’d like the ability to see what’s going on over there, from over here.
I’ve always been a forums guy.
Am I weird for thinking comparing Lemmy and Mastodon is odd? To me it’s almost like saying “I prefer apples over gravity” - they’re two completely different things in my opinion.
Yeah, I think they have very different use cases. For Lemmy, I’ve mostly figured out what that is and it feels familiar to me. For Mastadon, I’m still trying to figure it out.
I was never on any of the microblog platforms.
Microblogging is pretty much just box into which you can shout whatever you want, and sometimes people interact with what you said.
Makes me think of doing a monologue or something. Lol
Regarding 3: you can. On Mastodon, simply meantion the lemmy Community in your Post and it will be posted to that community
I already have seen some of those and sure it works…sometimes.
If it doesnt work it’s a federation issue
Also I would like to be able to follow a Mastodon user from Lemmy
Join us on kbin. This is precisely the feature kbin provides.
But no apps on kbin :(
But U dont have rss feeds I guess
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You could use kbin which can serve and display both varieties just fine.
I wanted to point out kbin.social has been having some stability issues, so I’ve been using the mbin fork at kbin.run and it’s been working amazingly.
They’ve been mostly resolved in my experience. Kbin.social has been working great.
Yup, kbin for the win.
Just wish it had a mobile app…
@interstellar is being developed for Android, and Lunar is working on Kbin support for iOS. Still a good ways to go tmk, but we’re getting there!
RIP Artemis
This is exactly why I op’d for Kbin over just Lemmy.
Lemmy + Mastodon support.
This is the way.
A groups rework is currently on mastodon’s roadmap as inprogress. We’ve not heard a lot of what this will look like but it’s very likely it will solve issue 1.
2 is related to how Mastodon handles the ¿page? object in the activitypub spec. I believe Mastodon prefers notes but could implement dedicated handling of it and probably will at some point.
3 is actually just incorrect. All you need to do is mention the community and it will post.
Mastodons side. They are aware and just don’t care.
I’m a little new to it all, but this bothered me as well. As far as I can tell, the underlying issue is that ActivityPub isn’t strict enough about how these things should be implemented, so everyone implements them in similar but slightly incompatible ways.
I think either Lemmy or Mastodon “could” fix it on their ends if they wanted to, but it’s not super easy and so far they’re deciding not to. I’m actually right in the middle of messing around with kbin right now, which aims to support the best of both worlds (can talk to Lemmy and interoperate well with Lemmy communities but can also follow / message / hear from Mastodon users within a UI that makes sense for Mastodon). It doesn’t seem like it’s as mature yet as either Mastodon or Lemmy though, but I’m pretty likely to switch to it for exactly this reason, that I’d like to have one account that can talk to both.
I’m also likely to switch to kbin at some point. Personally I take a fairly long-term view of this project, so I’m waiting to see which projects keep going, which fail, and which new ones haven’t even popped up yet. I’m aware that devs can pivot and change their minds about things.
I picked lemmy initially more or less at random, and I do like it here, but I’m ultimately going to move to the most functional product. That broader idea of the Fediverse is why I’m here.
Agree I really was intrigued after being comfortable with reddit, but bailing because all my Reddit interactions was from phone, so cut story short tried Mastodon.social>Kbin.social>Misskey.io
Also funkwhale and hubzilla out of curiosity.
So I really interested in tech but there is a lot of wait between some of them agree on some points.My aim for now to make Kbin community for a game that can directly refer to works of artists directly and for users of Microblogs to see topics and join in on discussions.
From personal experience Mastodon seems fine with threadiverse while Misskey can see posts if forced (and only kbin threads, link ones won’t work at least) but commenting gives error. Also Misskey quotes shows as comments for a post/message etc, but not federate to kbin so as loop around don’t work as well.
So having followed many artists on Misskey and having some people following me there kinda wish I could interact with magazine(community) directly, but too early for that I guess.
Also Misskey making webp conversion for images is good for storage(you get personal 2 gb and more with time or donations) but Kbin not federate them properly… So that also an headache…
Waiting when Kbin release api so I can remind about this problem again.
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Mastodon and Lemmy are simply not intended to be used cross-platform. Each has their own use-case.
Mastodon does plan to add “communities”, which presumably can or will federate with Lemmy.